Part_Timer
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funny hats tho
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Songs 'N Chants
- Thread starter Azza-Mataz
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serious14
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*yawn* No application of ignorance here Dibo, I'm just turning your "argument" (non-existent as it may be) back on you.
It's a song that originated at a football game. Last I checked, we attend football games. That makes us supporters of football. Many football supporters around the world are renowned for their wicked senses of humour and quick thinking ability to engage the right song at the right moment.
I'm fairly sure (in fact, 100% confident) that no-one was thinking about the journey of money from "taxpayers pocket" to "police hat maker" when the song was sung. _Lighten up_ and try enjoy being at a football game for once. Last week was the most fun I've had at a Mariners game in a long time because I just let go and embraced the insanity of what was going on. I applauded Kawasaki's 4th goal, I belted out a few tunes (where's your argumental outrage over the Kamakazi tune?? It possibly had even less to do with proceedings), and I enjoyed what really could have been an absolute shit of a night.
It's a song that originated at a football game. Last I checked, we attend football games. That makes us supporters of football. Many football supporters around the world are renowned for their wicked senses of humour and quick thinking ability to engage the right song at the right moment.
I'm fairly sure (in fact, 100% confident) that no-one was thinking about the journey of money from "taxpayers pocket" to "police hat maker" when the song was sung. _Lighten up_ and try enjoy being at a football game for once. Last week was the most fun I've had at a Mariners game in a long time because I just let go and embraced the insanity of what was going on. I applauded Kawasaki's 4th goal, I belted out a few tunes (where's your argumental outrage over the Kamakazi tune?? It possibly had even less to do with proceedings), and I enjoyed what really could have been an absolute shit of a night.
dibo
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I'm pleased to be lectured about starting new songs (let alone merely singing the damn things) by the master of mutely chewing his fingernails.
As I have never sung songs at football, started songs at football or tried anything new at football, I will defer to your greater experience.
Part_Timer
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Sym said:
if you came to games again u could join in said chant and jump also
kanewillow
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sex????
serious14
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dibo said:
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice, now we're getting personal. I expect a jibe about not having a job to follow, that's usually how these sorts of things go. Hows about we sing "Lawrie McKinna's Yellow Army" for the 50th time, 'cause it worked so well the previous 49, yeah??
You know damn well I used to sing all game, every game. I even had the mega for half of V2 - and quite frankly, it got to a point where I couldn't have been arsed anymore to try and get the Bay going..... we do not have the right make up at home games for consistent, proper chanting, hence we sound so damn good at away games. I passed this responsibility of 'capo duties' on to those who care more than I do (a random example of one of a few who's tried it since would be Part Timer - who does a bang up job considering the element of shit in the Bay he has to deal with on game days). You might have noticed Wednesday night that for the last 20 minutes, once the bay had been reduced to the 'away game core' (i.e. the extra's that always turn up at home games but add f*ck all), we were actually quite loud, and holy shit, we sang some songs.
And y'know what?? They might have only had a small percentage of anything to do with what was going on on the field, but really, find me a football crowd _anywhere_ in the world outside of Koreans and Japanese (who are robots in this sort of situation, they will chant anything) who will actively support their team when they have been nothing short of shit for nearly 5 months, and are turning in _the_ worst display in their history AND not really caring about it??
Tell us oh wise one, _what_ is your magical answer for the doldrums of the Bay?? You might be a smart arse c*nt with your whole "zomg, I defer to your experience heh heh I'm so clever" (conveniently ignoring the fact that I have actually been to quite a lot of football outside Australia in the last 3 years), but really, what's your solution?? Please to be educating us, yes?? So far all I'm taken from your teachings is "chants have to make sense", which quite frankly is the stupidest rule I've ever heard.
Part_Timer
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phone video proof required...then a kutgw
dibo
Well-Known Member
[apologies for the essay, but I'm over the bullshit so I'm putting up a serious post. if you just want my view on the way forward read the last few paras.]
In season 1 we were feeling our way along, seeing what worked and what didnt and just working on building numbers and a repertoire.
In seasons 2 and 3, we made lots of noise, had pretty good numbers and were still trying new things.
Last season something went pretty toxic. The first game of the season was immense that 20 minutes of Yellow football team was one of the more amazing things weve ever done it just wouldnt die and neither would the team. Its one time when I really feel like we made a difference to the team because we wouldnt sit down and shut up no matter the pressure that the Jets were putting on and when we scored it was unbelievable an explosion of both elation and relief. Pity we conceded moments later
At the start of the season at home we had the issues with the whole reserved seating bit that shredded our numbers and we lost a number of people that used to be pretty well essential to our noise. Craig was doing a great job on the meg though and we were doing OK for what we had. The teenybopper problem was gradually building and wed have a weird mix of before half-time wed be small but tight and then after half time wed be big but completely uncontrollable, unsteerable, unworkable.
I went away for three months mid-year, so Ive no idea what happened in the meantime.
When I came back our numbers were better from the start and the noise was better from the start, but perpetual arguments in the bay during the matches f**ked the air of the place completely. The big group at the front were perfectly happy to sing for 90 minutes, but because they werent singing what the capo and others wanted thered be shitfights. Frankly the whole things ridiculous.
This season a few things have taken off Yellow football team was taking its new shape in season 3, but the Round 1 derby cemented it (one song, we only need one song). Heracles took off too, but lost its tune along the way. The ooooooooo Central Coast Ole! thing is an excellent alternative to the f**king dreadful you fat bastard. Just recently the anthem has taken root, and I think it will grow and grow. But if people don't know it we can't go "it's the anthem, what's wrong with you!". We've got to teach them.
On the flip side, I dont like Lets go Mariners, lets go any more than I like Everywhere we go, but I can understand why those things are sung. For a start, they were pretty stock standard early on. They might not be full of all the right football kulcha, but they were the baby steps. Most of us have lost the urge to sing them, but there are some who still want to. Not everyone's on here all the time or on youtube looking up the latest in balkan ultras songs. If we constantly bitch at them rather than make the effort to teach them (and the bay as a whole) new things that they can pick up, they'll never move forward.
So now were in a situation where were so busy belting each other internally to focus on the matches, on trying new material or on having fun. One of the big things about the last 20 minutes against Kawasaki is that the bitching stopped. We just got on with being supporters. We did silly shit and had fun and while I dont think much of the hats song (so I didnt sing it, so shoot me) the rest was pretty cool and people had fun. That was a bit of a one-off though and next home game well have the same old troubles.
A big thing is the capo. Being on the meg is hard I know it as well as you do Serious, Ive done some time on it. I find that a big part of the problem of being on the meg is that when people dont like what youre doing, instead of offering practical and constructive criticism and suggesting something to change, theres a bunch of bitching that goes on behind the scenes. When it surfaces its like youve got no way of continuing as is but no direction to go in either.
There were times when I was on the meg, starting songs and while down the front thered be plenty of people following and making noise, all Id see behind me was lots of shaking heads. More than once I snapped and told said folks up the back that they should start their own f**king songs only to be met with silence. Seriously unhelpful.
We need cooperation and a bit of collective spirit. At the moment though weve just got a small group who want everyone to somehow absorb what they want by sheer osmosis rather than by teaching and leading and then hurl shit at anyone who isnt up to their standard of support and kulcha. There's a forum here for trying to build and develop support, but aside from the anthem nothing has come out of this since the start of the year with Heracles. We've just got torrents of bullshit.
Given the choice, Id rather have everyone inside the tent pissing out than having some outside pissing in, but at the moment weve got some inside the tent and still pissing in. Its unworkable as it is, and yet it takes so little to change it.
[Start reading here if you just my view on want the way forward in a nutshell]
I think the whole problem we have comes down to song choice. We have guaranteed set of agreed songs that everyone likes and will sing. Really we need about a dozen songs that we know can be started and will be followed by all the core people. Forget the woo crew if the core people are driving something and the drum is pumping it on too then we go over the top.
Of the dozen songs we need quick simple ones that will spread around the ground, (e.g. Come on mariners) we need rolling songs that will go for a while (e.g: Heracles, Yellow football team), the anthem and then whatever suits the moment.
But without some goodwill and unity of purpose, well just have shit, shit and more shit from here on.
In season 1 we were feeling our way along, seeing what worked and what didnt and just working on building numbers and a repertoire.
In seasons 2 and 3, we made lots of noise, had pretty good numbers and were still trying new things.
Last season something went pretty toxic. The first game of the season was immense that 20 minutes of Yellow football team was one of the more amazing things weve ever done it just wouldnt die and neither would the team. Its one time when I really feel like we made a difference to the team because we wouldnt sit down and shut up no matter the pressure that the Jets were putting on and when we scored it was unbelievable an explosion of both elation and relief. Pity we conceded moments later
At the start of the season at home we had the issues with the whole reserved seating bit that shredded our numbers and we lost a number of people that used to be pretty well essential to our noise. Craig was doing a great job on the meg though and we were doing OK for what we had. The teenybopper problem was gradually building and wed have a weird mix of before half-time wed be small but tight and then after half time wed be big but completely uncontrollable, unsteerable, unworkable.
I went away for three months mid-year, so Ive no idea what happened in the meantime.
When I came back our numbers were better from the start and the noise was better from the start, but perpetual arguments in the bay during the matches f**ked the air of the place completely. The big group at the front were perfectly happy to sing for 90 minutes, but because they werent singing what the capo and others wanted thered be shitfights. Frankly the whole things ridiculous.
This season a few things have taken off Yellow football team was taking its new shape in season 3, but the Round 1 derby cemented it (one song, we only need one song). Heracles took off too, but lost its tune along the way. The ooooooooo Central Coast Ole! thing is an excellent alternative to the f**king dreadful you fat bastard. Just recently the anthem has taken root, and I think it will grow and grow. But if people don't know it we can't go "it's the anthem, what's wrong with you!". We've got to teach them.
On the flip side, I dont like Lets go Mariners, lets go any more than I like Everywhere we go, but I can understand why those things are sung. For a start, they were pretty stock standard early on. They might not be full of all the right football kulcha, but they were the baby steps. Most of us have lost the urge to sing them, but there are some who still want to. Not everyone's on here all the time or on youtube looking up the latest in balkan ultras songs. If we constantly bitch at them rather than make the effort to teach them (and the bay as a whole) new things that they can pick up, they'll never move forward.
So now were in a situation where were so busy belting each other internally to focus on the matches, on trying new material or on having fun. One of the big things about the last 20 minutes against Kawasaki is that the bitching stopped. We just got on with being supporters. We did silly shit and had fun and while I dont think much of the hats song (so I didnt sing it, so shoot me) the rest was pretty cool and people had fun. That was a bit of a one-off though and next home game well have the same old troubles.
A big thing is the capo. Being on the meg is hard I know it as well as you do Serious, Ive done some time on it. I find that a big part of the problem of being on the meg is that when people dont like what youre doing, instead of offering practical and constructive criticism and suggesting something to change, theres a bunch of bitching that goes on behind the scenes. When it surfaces its like youve got no way of continuing as is but no direction to go in either.
There were times when I was on the meg, starting songs and while down the front thered be plenty of people following and making noise, all Id see behind me was lots of shaking heads. More than once I snapped and told said folks up the back that they should start their own f**king songs only to be met with silence. Seriously unhelpful.
We need cooperation and a bit of collective spirit. At the moment though weve just got a small group who want everyone to somehow absorb what they want by sheer osmosis rather than by teaching and leading and then hurl shit at anyone who isnt up to their standard of support and kulcha. There's a forum here for trying to build and develop support, but aside from the anthem nothing has come out of this since the start of the year with Heracles. We've just got torrents of bullshit.
Given the choice, Id rather have everyone inside the tent pissing out than having some outside pissing in, but at the moment weve got some inside the tent and still pissing in. Its unworkable as it is, and yet it takes so little to change it.
[Start reading here if you just my view on want the way forward in a nutshell]
I think the whole problem we have comes down to song choice. We have guaranteed set of agreed songs that everyone likes and will sing. Really we need about a dozen songs that we know can be started and will be followed by all the core people. Forget the woo crew if the core people are driving something and the drum is pumping it on too then we go over the top.
Of the dozen songs we need quick simple ones that will spread around the ground, (e.g. Come on mariners) we need rolling songs that will go for a while (e.g: Heracles, Yellow football team), the anthem and then whatever suits the moment.
But without some goodwill and unity of purpose, well just have shit, shit and more shit from here on.
Tittirongi
Well-Known Member
I think we should just all shhhh
marinermick
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lol, this place is so "lord of the flies"
marinermick
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kevrenor said:School holidaysmarinermick said:
:
ironic that most of them are too old for school these days
Change the word "Boston" to "Gosford" and you've got yourself a ready-made Mariners song.
I'm Shipping Up To Boston
I'm a sailor peg
And I've lost my leg
Climbing up the top sails
I lost my leg!
I'm shipping up to Boston whoa
I'm shipping up to Boston whoa
I'm shipping up to Boston whoa
I'm shipping off...to find my wooden leg
I'm a sailor peg
And I've lost my leg
Climbing up the top sails
I lost my leg!
I'm shipping up to Boston whoa
I'm shipping up to Boston whoa
I'm shipping up to Boston whoa
I'm shipping off...to find my wooden leg
http://www.youtube.com/v/x-64CaD8GXw&hl=en&fs=1
I'm Shipping Up To Boston
I'm a sailor peg
And I've lost my leg
Climbing up the top sails
I lost my leg!
I'm shipping up to Boston whoa
I'm shipping up to Boston whoa
I'm shipping up to Boston whoa
I'm shipping off...to find my wooden leg
I'm a sailor peg
And I've lost my leg
Climbing up the top sails
I lost my leg!
I'm shipping up to Boston whoa
I'm shipping up to Boston whoa
I'm shipping up to Boston whoa
I'm shipping off...to find my wooden leg
http://www.youtube.com/v/x-64CaD8GXw&hl=en&fs=1
FFC Mariner
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He was a superstar they said, Mrdja, Mrdja
He hardly played a f**king game, Mrdja, Mrdja
Did his knee or so he said,give him the ball hell score again cant work out the 3rd line - help!
Nicky Mrdja, Mariners number 9
Na na na etc etc
He hardly played a f**king game, Mrdja, Mrdja
Did his knee or so he said,
Nicky Mrdja, Mariners number 9
Na na na etc etc
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