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thomas477

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marinermick said:
as was pointed out on the sydney forum newcastle will have song, dong and ontong

:vhappy:

Ah, just a clarification according to Mr Simon Hill, its Sonk, Donk and Ontonk :p

Also I read that thread, its pure class on page 10. Pure class
 

UnitedsNo9

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Arabmariner said:
So does GVE now try and sue the FFA ?

Or has he just gone and made a right goose of himself ?

The latter seems more likely imo.

Either way, i'm hoping on seeing some more chicken dancing captured on camera
 

clarence

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Arabmariner said:
So does GVE now try and sue the FFA ?

Or has he just gone and made a right goose of himself ?

The latter seems more likely imo.

Maybe GVE went after a job with the FFA and told them he was able to be released from his contract with the Jets, but now that's been found out not to be the case?

In other words, maybe Dutchy misrepresented his availability to the FFA panel assessing his application or Dutchy received bad legal advice before telling the FFA he was available upon release?

If the FFA get legal advice saying they have no worries about the situation if they walk away from the appointment, and Con won't have him back or GVE refuses to go back to the Jets, GVE's career is basically stalled for the remainder of that Jets contract.
 

marinermick

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/football/a-league/culina-faces-coaching-paperchase/2009/07/16/1247337216914.html?page=2
 

clarence

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marinermick said:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/football/a-league/culina-faces-coaching-paperchase/2009/07/16/1247337216914.html?page=2

Yeah the lack of formal certificates for Culina may actually make Con more keen to get GVE back at work for the Jets (I assume GVE HAS the said Certificates?). Otherwise I think Con would have been happy to tell GVE to sit out the contract he's breached!

I would like the AFC to come back to the FFA telling them that there should be no exemptions - after all, the FFA have gone to great expense to update their own curriculum for coaching and I believe they should be setting the standard, not trying to fit a square block into a round hole by exempting those who didn't keep their qualifications up to date.

So long as Branko - and any other A-League coach or Assistant Coach - promise to complete the relevant studies by the next season I'd be happy to accept that, but that should only be a transition exemption, others who follow have to have the qualifications before they have the gig.
 

Arabmariner

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Tbh I don't really see the point in preventing coaches working if they haven't completed various courses.

I can see the point at a junior level where you want kids being taught correctly from the start.But at a proffesional level if your employer thinks you're good enough that should be all that matters imo.It's not as if bad coaching can put someones life at risk.It's just a revenue raising exercise imo.

Plenty of great coaches operated without the need for a licence.
 

Jesus

Jesus
Arabmariner said:
Tbh I don't really see the point in preventing coaches working if they haven't completed various courses.

I can see the point at a junior level where you want kids being taught correctly from the start.But at a proffesional level if your employer thinks you're good enough that should be all that matters imo.It's not as if bad coaching can put someones life at risk.It's just a revenue raising exercise imo.

Plenty of great coaches operated without the need for a licence.

If the FFA want all australian players playing to a certain standard, in a certain way, with certain strengths, then they have to impliment it in the national league. If australian players are being coached in a similar manner to national teams and how we want to play, then the players will adapt to the step up easier.
 

clarence

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Jesus said:
Arabmariner said:
Tbh I don't really see the point in preventing coaches working if they haven't completed various courses.

I can see the point at a junior level where you want kids being taught correctly from the start.But at a proffesional level if your employer thinks you're good enough that should be all that matters imo.It's not as if bad coaching can put someones life at risk.It's just a revenue raising exercise imo.

Plenty of great coaches operated without the need for a licence.

If the FFA want all australian players playing to a certain standard, in a certain way, with certain strengths, then they have to impliment it in the national league. If australian players are being coached in a similar manner to national teams and how we want to play, then the players will adapt to the step up easier.
+1.
There are some dinosaurs out there who are possibly in contention, coaching at State League levels, for A-League spots in the future. Some are firmly stuck in the old Soccer Australia mentality and have the skills to match.

IF these coaches don't bother to adapt to the modern methods of teaching/coaching by completing courses and proving they can do it, then they don't deserve offers of employment at a higher level. There *are* plenty of younger coaches who have taken the time to attend courses and seminars and their opportunities should not be held back because of some mate from the old club in the NSL days.

I can appreciate someone like Culina who had no intention of coaching suddenly finding himself in, at least, a caretaker coach/manager role, but really these sort of situations should not happen. If he IS the Technical Director for an A-League club he should have the required qualifications to match a manager's role as a minimum.

There are plenty of people out in the big bad world who may make fabulous Doctors, Teachers, Nurses or Lawyers but can't do that as they don't have the qualifications. Why should being a professional Football Manager be any different?
 

Jazzie

Sheer joy at beating the scum :)
clarence said:
Jesus said:
Arabmariner said:
Tbh I don't really see the point in preventing coaches working if they haven't completed various courses.

I can see the point at a junior level where you want kids being taught correctly from the start.But at a proffesional level if your employer thinks you're good enough that should be all that matters imo.It's not as if bad coaching can put someones life at risk.It's just a revenue raising exercise imo.

Plenty of great coaches operated without the need for a licence.

If the FFA want all australian players playing to a certain standard, in a certain way, with certain strengths, then they have to impliment it in the national league. If australian players are being coached in a similar manner to national teams and how we want to play, then the players will adapt to the step up easier.
+1.
There are some dinosaurs out there who are possibly in contention, coaching at State League levels, for A-League spots in the future. Some are firmly stuck in the old Soccer Australia mentality and have the skills to match.

IF these coaches don't bother to adapt to the modern methods of teaching/coaching by completing courses and proving they can do it, then they don't deserve offers of employment at a higher level. There *are* plenty of younger coaches who have taken the time to attend courses and seminars and their opportunities should not be held back because of some mate from the old club in the NSL days.

I can appreciate someone like Culina who had no intention of coaching suddenly finding himself in, at least, a caretaker coach/manager role, but really these sort of situations should not happen. If he IS the Technical Director for an A-League club he should have the required qualifications to match a manager's role as a minimum.

There are plenty of people out in the big bad world who may make fabulous Doctors, Teachers, Nurses or Lawyers but can't do that as they don't have the qualifications. Why should being a professional Football Manager be any different?

:postcount: I hear too many comments on "more aussie coaches for HAL clubs". Fair enough, however they need to match the competency of our European/Rest of the World coaches. The HAL is a business, not an old boys club where close enough is good enough.
 

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