Australia's bid for the 2018 or 2022 World Cup

[FFC Mariner]

find and replace - saves all that reading crap lol

 

[Roy Law]

Fozzie tells it the way it is http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/other-codes-need-to-get-real-20091212-kpik.html

 

[FFC Mariner]

Fozzie tells it the way it is http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/other-codes-need-to-get-real-20091212-kpik.html

Wow - cop that minor sports. Top work. High, studs up, 2 footed lunge that connects with the head Tards kneecaps.

He is still a despicable wanker but this was a great effort.

 

[midfielder]

Beckenbauer says we have a strong bid.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,26472941-5019088,00.html

FIFA delegate Franz Beckenbauer says Australia's World Cup is 'perfect'
By David Davutovic and Josh Massoud
December 12, 2009 .Football great and FIFA delegate Franz Beckenbauer has described Australia's 2018-2022 World Cup bid as "perfect" and rated the possibility of Australia hosting the tournament as "very, very realistic".

On a day when the Canterbury Bulldogs called for NRL clubs to accommodate national teams at their training grounds, Beckenbauer gave Australia his all-powerful blessing.

As well as being the man who oversaw the last World Cup in Germany, Beckenbauer is more importantly a member of FIFA's 24-man panel that, this time next year, will determine the host nations for both tournaments.

"In terms of Australia's bid, I think it's a great bid. It's perfect," Beckenbauer said.

"And you also have the support of some very, very experienced people who know exactly how the bidding process works and what it takes to be successful."

He was alluding to Andreas Abold, the man behind the successful bids by Germany in 2006 and South Africa in 2010, who has been recruited to consult FFA.

Beckenbauer suggested Australia's best chance would be hosting the 2022 tournament. "To be realistic, the Europeans are trying very hard to get the World Cup back to their continent in
2018 after two consecutive World Cups going elsewhere," he said.

"But to be honest I'm not sure how it will work, but for Australia if it's not 2018, then for 2022 there's a very, very realistic chance of course."

NRL clubs are calling for compensation in lieu of a shortened season.

But Bulldogs CEO Todd Greenberg on Friday said rugby league should be also looking at ways to generate money from the tournament itself - perhaps hosting World Cup nations at their training grounds while the competition is suspended.

"While we can't afford to shut ourselves down for two or three months, we also need to look at opportunities that will arise from having one of the world's biggest events in Australia," he said.

"We could look at opening our venues to them in suburban and regional areas. You could have the French team training at Belmore or the Germans down in Wollongong."

FFA boss Ben Buckley and senior official Stu Taggart visited NRL headquarters on Friday, where they vowed to update league CEO David Gallop on each step of the bid.

The FFA's final document is due for submission next May.

 

[midfielder]

Fozzie tells it the way it is http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/other-codes-need-to-get-real-20091212-kpik.html

Wow - cop that minor sports. Top work. High, studs up, 2 footed lunge that connects with the head Tards kneecaps.

He is still a despicable wanker but this was a great effort.

All this kinda of talk of take over and rasing waters will come and that will be the end of you..

Just sitting back a mom, first I don't think it is true a WC in Australia will destory the other codes... BUT lets for one slight mon think it could ... would you then assist in your downfall...

Also consider especially in the case of the AFL thaey have few gounds to plat at other than their main stadiums...

I am not saying I am on there side or that I think they way they should BUT if it is going to destory them why would anyone help ...

We are winning all the polls and government by letting the AFL & RL do all the name calling .. Fozzie's calls will delight the football zealouts only ...

 

[FFC Mariner]

Nothing about a takeover, just nice to see that f**king tard and his media whores put in their box by Foster of all people

 

[curious]

And would anyone give Foster's articles any more value than something to wipe your arse on when paper of a decent quality isn't available? Like anyone that preaches with the hell and damnation of a religious extremist, he has no credibility. All he has served to do is a promotion of disrespect & denigration of everything Australian, (only a tiny allowance for Australian football) the superiority of anything European ( as long as it's non Anglo British ) and S. American and the maintenance of all the above based on fear, hatred and conspiracies with a longing for Australia to be altered to his preference of a southern hemisphere version of old world Europe. Populated by non Australians, of course.

 

[Ranyen]

I'm still waiting for something by Rebecca Wilson.........

 

[dibo]

apparently there's been a deal to put the final on in sydney. tards are furious.

one week: 'you can't have our stadiums...'

next week: '...but we want the final!'

 

[FFC Mariner]

I'm still waiting for something by Rebecca Wilson.........

Her obituary?

 

[Ranyen]

Expect no less from the Daily Telegraph.....

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/secret-world-cup-contract-controls-sydney-overrides-liquor-laws/story-e6frexni-1225809965305

A SECRET FIFA document demands the right to overturn Sydney's liquor laws under a push by global soccer chiefs to seize control of our city if Australia hosts the World Cup.

The move to override existing local liquor laws - at a time when the city is fighting alcohol-fuelled violence - is contained in the contract cities trying to woo the world's biggest sporting carnival in 2018 or 2022 must sign.

A draft copy of the contract outlines dozens of onerous conditions soccer's ruling body FIFA demands of World Cup host cities.

Under the draft agreement, FIFA would demand Sydney:

* CLOSE any road or restrict public access to roads at any time during the event;

* DEVOTE special traffic lanes and provide police escorts for FIFA officials, teams and VIP guests;

* GIVE special treatment to preferred commercial partners, potentially cutting locals out of work;

* TONE down promotion of major sporting events in the year leading up to the soccer carnival;

* KEEP airports open later and open them earlier;

* REMOVE advertising and commercial logos across the city at taxpayer expense; and

* BAN substantial cultural events - such as music concerts - on the days before or after matches

Football Federation Australia said FIFA had stipulated details of the contract not be released but The Daily Telegraph found copies of the Host City Agreement on the websites of other cities around the world which publicly debated its impact.

No such debate has yet occurred in Sydney despite a formal pledge from Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and the premiers effectively locking Australia in to FIFA demands.

The contract orders all bars, restaurants and shops within the host city be granted late-night opening each match day at a minimum.

One particular comment:

Don't u just love reading all the reactive, uninformed posts, that, as usual, fail to grasp the subject matter and turn the forum into an anti-soccer rant. Is Sydney 2000 such a distant memory that we forget the road closures, the clearways, the preferential treatment of sponsors etc. You boneheads never cease to amaze me. Why don't you gather ALL the information before you start spraying your hollow opinions about the place ? I'll tell you why, because that may involve a couple of minutes reading time. And just for the record I'm an RL supporter who wants the WC here, absolutely, positively. You drones should go and live in Melbourne with the other narrow minded, regional hicks...

 

[dibo]

That's funny, same story showed up in the Herald Sun (with reference to Melbourne inserted in place of Sydney), and the Courier Mail...

 

[serious14]

News up to their usual shenanigans??  Say it ain't so??

 

[midfielder]

Poster on the MV forum posted this whick I think is pure Gold... from Herald Sun

tuesday: World cup crime threat:
gypsy pickpocket gangs to target australia posing as soccer fans

wednesday: World cup aids threat.
health authorities fear large numbers of soccer fans from africa will increase infection rates.

thursday: World cup illegal immigration threat:
Soccer fans to overstay visas

friday: World cup terror threat.
muslim terrorists to enter australia posing as soccer fans

saturday: Melbourne snubbed by soccer fans.
despite melbourne's international reputation for tolerance and multi-culturalism, soccer fans are more likely to stay in sydney.

 

[midfielder]

Oh my God vomit are we living in the deep south of the US with the AFL playing the role of the  clan undeliverable ARrr talk about give you the shits

Another AFL angle to attack the WC bid from  Jeff Kennett no less ..just makes me want to vomit this is really bottom of the barrel stuff

Partly copied below the WC will bring on depression well f**k me God I hope we win the bid..


Even makes the NSW right wing of the labour seem like Choir boy's

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/kennett-criticises-world-cup-planning-20091214-kr4r.html

Hawthorn president Jeff Kennett says 'no one has done the work' on the Australian World Cup bid, and the disruption of a successful bid to Australia's other football codes could have a heavy 'emotional cost'.
Speaking on radio station SEN's Hungry for Sport program

it is going to disrupt the majority of Australians for the best part of the year. And that's serious, because wearing my hat as the chairman of Beyond Blue, I have come to realise that after family and our employment, which provides us all with stresses and anxieties from time to time, we turn to our sport to put a balance in our lives

 

[Arabmariner]

I'm still waiting for something by Rebecca Wilson.........

She had a go at the bottom of her page in Saturdays Terrorgraph.

Not the full article but a seperate smaller comment at the bottom.

Main article to come no doubt.

 

[midfielder]

Richard Hinds another AFL junro subtlely puts the boot in.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/cup-might-help-ffa-turn-tide-as-watereddown-crowds-trickle-in-20091215-kunq.html

Cup might help FFA turn tide as watered-down crowds trickle in
RICHARD HINDS
December 16, 2009

Soccer's entertaining agent provocateur Craig Foster wrote, in response to the objections of the AFL and NRL about possible inconvenience created by a successful 2018 or 2022 World Cup bid: ''In Australia, the world game is a rising tide that will ultimately engulf all before it.''

If you were to judge the progress of this footballing tsunami by the paltry size of recent A-League crowds you might suggest, at a domestic level, the game is more like a trickle from an overflowing bath than a tidal wave. Even the greatest A-League advocate would agree last weekend's total attendance of 30,849 at an average of 6170, even for a round when none of the five games were played in Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide or Perth, was well below par.

Not for the purposes of propaganda in the skirmish with nervous rival codes, but to ensure the continued sustainability of fledgling clubs in a still fragile competition. Yet, at Etihad Stadium on Saturday night, there is a good chance Melbourne Victory alone will draw more than 30,849 for the top-of-the-table clash with Sydney FC. While the early growth has peaked, I suspect the A-League's problem is not lack of total support but its urban concentration.

This presents the obvious danger that the gulf between the haves and have-nots will become entrenched. Current equalisation methods and the introduction of second teams in Melbourne and Sydney might narrow the gap between big and small market teams. But that raises another dilemma - is it in soccer's best interests to reduce the ability of the few prosperous clubs to provide the best entertainment possible for the largest crowds?

The Melbourne-Sydney blockbuster might bring to mind, for some, the not-unpleasant prospect Australia could develop its own version of the Celtic-Rangers or Real Madrid-Barcelona duopoly. The difference is that downtrodden Hamilton Academical or Tenerife can survive without hope of ultimate success because of the baked-on devotion of lifelong supporters and the lack of spectators and corporate opposition from other codes. North Queensland, Gold Coast or Newcastle do not have the same luxury.

But if the support is spread too thin and creaking turnstiles at some venues are diminishing the A-League's cache, one conclusion drawn from the weekend's dismal attendance does not ring true - that poor crowds will harm Australia's 2018/2022 World Cup bid.

Certainly, the sight of so many empty seats will provide ammunition for those rival administrators who have been knocking on doors in Canberra asking why soccer, despite its relatively small top-end operation - as opposed to its healthy grassroots - has been treated so favourably by the Rudd Government.

Hawthorn AFL president Jeff Kennett suggested it was folly for Australia to bid for the World Cup without fully understanding the cost-benefit scenario, given the game catered for the tastes of only ''5 per cent of the population''.

But as the FFA has long recognised, the struggle to establish the A-League against entrenched codes and an almost equally potent rival - the glut of world-class soccer available on television - is the most compelling reason to bring the World Cup to Australia, not a deterrent. Equally, if FIFA's support for Australia's bid was galvanised by recent opposition from local codes as has been reported, then the challenge of filling empty stadiums should strengthen Australia's case, not weaken it.

What the sub-standard crowds do indicate is that the World Cup is not merely a nice bonus for the FFA as it tries to accelerate the A-League's growth. It is an absolute necessity. Without the sustained exposure it would bring, it will take an extra generation or two for the soccer tsunami to even trickle over our toes.

 

[midfielder]

Another dig at Football ... seems News is on the attack ... even positives articles are painted in black terms.. like Football are trying to keep secert they will make a profit out of the WC...

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/soccer/m-cup-bonanza/story-e6frey4r-1225811133956

$170m Cup bonanza

By Tom Smithies From:
The Daily Telegraph December 17, 2009

A CONFIDENTIAL report by one of Australia's World Cup bid rivals has revealed the $170 million prize that soccer here could earn from hosting the 2018 or 2022 tournaments.

The presentation by England's 2018 bid team reveals that any profits made by the World Cup are split between the host soccer authorities and FIFA, with the bulk going to the nation that puts the competition on.

The document, seen by The Daily Telegraph, was prepared for the cities hoping to be part of England's bid.

Inquiries to the German soccer association, which staged the 2006 World Cup, revealed the profit then was 155 million ($250 million) - with two thirds of it sunk back into the German game.

If Australia was successful both in its bid and then in executing a World Cup as outstanding as 2006, Football Federation Australia could expect an even bigger bonanza given the consistent rise in revenues recorded at each tournament.


The disclosure will discomfort soccer chiefs who have sought to concentrate on the advantages to Australia as a whole of hosting a World Cup, particularly amid clashes with other codes over their disruption.

Indeed the England 2018 document also reveals the extent to which money will flow in to the economy of whichever countries are granted the right to host 2018 and 2022, including the benefits for host cities.

The figures are based on FIFA estimates and previous World Cups, and sources confirmed last night that they are comparable to the putative balance sheet mapped out by bid organisers here.

The bill for host cities is expected to be around $26 million and another $4 million for the stadiums themselves, spread out between the awarding of the tournament and its hosting.

Overall the English figures point to an incremental spend of nearly $11 billion flowing from a World Cup, with an impact on GDP of some $6.4 billion - figures very similar to those reported by Germany in 2006.

FFA has consistently pointed to a similar economic dividend for Australia. Negotiations continue between the state and federal governments here as to who will carry what percentage of the cost of a World Cup, with a deadline of February.

A spokeswoman for the FFA last night declined to comment on any earnings, but a well-connected observer remarked: "Now you can see why so many 'first world' countries want to host the World Cup.

"It takes a lot of time and effort to put on, and money of course, but the rewards are commensurate with that.

"Don't forget these rewards are not automatic - they flow from being able to stage a really good World Cup and maximise every opportunity. If you do that, then the whole country benefits."

 

[midfielder]

Finally a good news story and about the bid...

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/buckley-ready-to-answer-fifa-questions-on-bid-20091216-kxh3.html

AFTER a bruising week during which Australia's World Cup bid at times appeared significantly wounded, bid chief Ben Buckley arrived in Abu Dhabi yesterday carrying one message for FIFA's powerbrokers: business as usual.

Ten of the 24 executive committee members who will vote next year to award hosting rights for the World Cup are in the city attending FIFA's club world championship.

Australia does not have a team on the pitch but that has not stopped the wandering caravan that is the World Cup bid from setting up shop.

''We'll be using the time in Abu Dhabi to have some one-on-one meetings with FIFA executive members,'' Buckley said last night. ''It's a good and timely opportunity to answer any questions they may have about recent reports concerning stadiums and related issues, as well as reinforce our strong claims as hosts and to let them know of the renewed commitment of governments to the bid.''

Buckley will tell the 10 delegates that Australia's bid has the full support of all state and territory governments, highlighting the agreement reached at the COAG meeting this month that the states and Commonwealth would commit to Australia submitting a compliant bid.

He will also tell delegates that the recent storm of protest from rival codes was inevitable and expected and that the strength of Australian football and rugby league gives FIFA extra reason for taking its biggest show to a market that is yet to be conquered.

News of last week's cross-code discontent travelled quickly around the world and Australia's bid team is expecting plenty of questions on the subject from concerned executive committee members. Last week's fight - along with England's strong lobbying performance this month in South Africa - also cost Australia its tag as bookies' favourite to land the 2018 cup this week. London bookmaker William Hill downgraded Australia from outright favourite to third place at 3-1, reinstating England as a 7-4 favourite. The joint Spain-Portugal bid is now second favourite at 9-4.

The news came yesterday as one of Australia's top rivals for the 2018 event - England - stole a march on its bid by announcing full government backing had been granted for the 300 million ($A329.5 million) worth of financial guarantees required by FIFA.

In Australia, state and federal governments are yet to agree on who will pick up the tab for the security, immigration, hospitality and media guarantees each bidding nation must sign up to.

It also emerged that FIFA's all-important inspection team will visit Australia during the second week of August next year. During the five-day visit a team of FIFA officials will run the rule over the country's stadium facilities and plans as well as tourism and transport infrastructure. Some events on the trip will be scheduled by the bid team but the FIFA delegation will have the power to go anywhere it wishes. It will then report back on the Australian bid to the 24 executive committee members.

 

[midfielder]

Even if he follows the flying cicrus ... love this from ANTHONY LaPAGLIA ... who has told rival football codes to ''get out of their own little world'' and throw their support behind Australia's bid to host the 2018 or 2022 World Cup - before the nation is perceived as a ''backwater''.

go Anthony ... my dislike for the Flying Circus down one peg...

It's a huge benefit to all - LaPaglia calls on rival codes to back Cup push

SEBASTIAN HASSETT
December 18, 2009

ANTHONY LaPAGLIA has told rival football codes to ''get out of their own little world'' and throw their support behind Australia's bid to host the 2018 or 2022 World Cup - before the nation is perceived as a ''backwater''.

The Without A Trace star, who has more recently produced and starred in the controversial film Balibo, was dismayed at flying back home to Australia and being greeted by raging headlines surrounding the debate over stadium availability and disruptions to the AFL and NRL seasons.

Adelaide-born LaPaglia, a Sydney FC shareholder who spent time as a goalkeeper with Adelaide City in the old National Soccer League before moving to the US to pursue an acting career, said he could only see positives in Australia's bid and that it was time to end the petty cross-code bickering.

''We're talking about the nation of Australia and establishing ourselves, as we did with the Olympics, as a cutting-edge, up to date, progressive country,'' LaPaglia said. ''To do anything other than support the bid reinforces that we might possibly be a backwater.

''But I think some people like that idea. They want to keep it all 'the-way-it-was-because-I-liked-it'. But it's like, come on guys, they know damn well, on so many different levels, it's a huge benefit to all the codes of football. And, more importantly, it's important to the country.

''Don't get me wrong, I love Australia, but it's an island and sometimes it has an island mentality. This stuff is what reinforces that. If they're threatened by the idea it may push soccer up into a position where it threatens their code, once again, they need to have more confidence in their own code.''

LaPaglia was adamant that other sports need not fear the World Cup coming to Australia and said they, like football, would only enjoy additional spin-offs from hosting the event.

''You have to understand the benefits, the long-term benefits, that will help all codes. Number one, all the stadiums will be improved, retro-fitted, and that will help them in the long run. So you have to shut down for six months and you have to play in another stadium? That's a short-term problem that will give you long-term benefits, far into the future. You can't get stuck in myopic, circular and small thinking.

''AFL and NRL have been around for 100 years or so, they're not going to disappear, not at all - unless they act like twits and then it might. If you're an AFL fan, you're an AFL fan. If you're a rugby league fan, you're a rugby league fan. There's no reason you can't cross over and watch the other sports.''

The 50-year old called on the Federal Government to concentrate its efforts on helping the bid.

''Politicians, for better or worse, run the country and I don't think they should be dictated to by some guys who've got a bit of power in the AFL,'' he said. ''Since when does a sporting body dictate to the government what is best for the country in terms of economy, PR and putting Australia on the map? If anybody has any doubts, send them a tape of the 2000 Olympics, second to none anywhere in the world.

''We're going to bring massive amounts of people that are going to inject massive amounts of money into our economy. Which part of this is bad so far? I don't get it.''

LaPaglia will be unable to attend next year's World Cup in South Africa due to work commitments but said he was confident of a bold showing by the Socceroos against their group D opponents Germany, Ghana and Serbia.

''Most of our players play at that level in Europe,'' he said. ''But can they gel at the right time? I've no qualms they can beat Germany. I'm more worried about Ghana. Everyone's talking about Serbia but I'm more worried about Ghana. They are the most acclimatised. And also with Michael Essien in midfield, he ain't bad to start with

''I'm kinda hoping for Australia and Ghana to go on [qualifying from the group stage]. And you know what? It's possible.''

TOMORROW: LaPaglia on where Sydney FC went wrong.