WSW v NSW Police: "Not with-out a warrant"

[Rowdy]

Liked this little post-script at the end of above article .........

Popovic issued a subtle reminder that his side hold a six-point lead over Sydney, who are vulnerable to being dislodged from the top six by the surging Glory.

Asked if he expected the Wanderers to meet the Sky Blues in the finals, he said: "That's not up to us".


Let the Arnie v Poppa Finals 'mind-games' BEGIN !!!

 

[Rowdy]

From The Guardian online:

There were seven arrests and 40 ejections, but NSW Police have praised A-League fans for their overall good behaviour at a flare-free Sydney derby.

More than 200 officers and extra specialist units patrolled Allianz Stadium on Saturday night, in a bid to prevent the trouble that has marred matches in Melbourne for two weeks running.

They were “generally happy” with the result. “We are particularly pleased that fans from both sides heeded our advice not to bring flares,” Superintendent Tony Crandell said.

“While there was some deliberate aggression by fans of both teams towards spectators from the opposite club, this was thankfully rare, and dealt with quickly. We would like to thank the fans, their clubs and Football Federation Australia, who have all worked closely together to achieve this result.”

Police said seven people were arrested for offences including affray, assault and fail to quit, while about 40 people were kicked out for intoxication and offensive behaviour.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

failing to quit? Man, the anti smoking lobby is getting serious!!!

Seriously though, 7 arrests and 40 ejections seems like an unusually high number even for a crowd of that size. Maybe I'm wrong.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Saw 2 little scuffles in the ground. 1 where some f**kwit SFC fan thought it would be a good idea to sit with the RBB. The other was in the mixed area during the Poznan. Handbags by the look of it.

Oh can also Co form that the don't stand on the seats rule doesn't apply of you fill the away end

 

[sydmariner]

 

[Rowdy]

Tsatsimas: Fans wont accept flares:

Western Sydney Wanderers CEO John Tsatsimas says attitudes are changing among the club’s supporters which he hopes will help end anti-social behavior issues.

Wanderers were hit with a $50,000 fine and a suspended three-point deduction for bringing the game into disrepute after fans ripped flares at a game against Melbourne Victory in February.

The suspended penalty remains in place until February 2017, meaning a point deduction still looms heading into the new campaign if issues arise again.

Wanderers’ fans also set off flares during the Grand Final, while they were accused of damaging seats too, but didn’t receive punishment from FFA.

Despite this, Tsatsimas said behavior had improved following the February penalty along with attitudes among the club’s supporter base.

“If you look at the number of incidents, that has improved greatly and vastly,” Tsatsimas told FourFourTwo.

“I just don’t think it’s the club, the public don’t accept it.

“The Western Sydney Wanderers fans who genuinely support the team don’t advocate for it.

“That’s the thing. If your own group knows what’s expected, then you’ve come a long way.”

Tsatsimas has been outspoken in his support of the club’s fans, regularly labeling them the best in the league despite the actions of a small minority.

“I’ve got to say that our fans, since the last issue, have been remarkably supportive and fantastic,” he said. “We’ve got the best fans in the league I believe.

“We would never condone anything that’s anti-social or damaging of public property.

“We have the best fans in the league. There might be a minority there, but we maintain our position that won’t advocate for them, but we will for those who always support Western Sydney Wanderers in a proud proper manner.”

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/tsatsimas-fans-wont-accept-flares#cgtbQDhoWv5AcGUl.99

 

[Rowdy]

attitudes are changing

 

[Rowdy]

Stellas and ciggies ??
RBB members show how hard and scary they are:
By Ben McKay,

Australia’s most controversial fan group, the Western Sydney Wanderers-supporting Red and Black Bloc, have taken aim at their A-League enemies in a provocative video clip.

Australia’s most controversial fan group, the Western Sydney Wanderers-supporting Red and Black Bloc, have taken aim at their A-League enemies in a provocative video clip.

The RBB targets five figures – sports columnist Rebecca Wilson, talkback radio hosts Alan Jones and Ray Hadley, FFA chief executive David Gallop and departing A-League chief Damien de Bohun – by donning and later burning masks of their faces in the clip.

The spiteful recording, uploaded to the RBB’s YouTube account on Thursday, aims to promote RBB merchandise ahead of the upcoming season.

The video shows the men drinking and vandalising a derelict building while in RBB-branded clothing.

It concludes with a note thanking the “suits and `celebrities'” mentioned above, before their images are placed in a bucket and set alight.

The RBB has repeatedly clashed with FFA and A-League authorities over issues of fan behaviour, safety and security.

An article by Wilson in November last year brought those issues to a head, when she revealed the names and faces of many of the 198 football fans who had been banned from football stadia.

Wilson, who received death threats in the ugly wake of the article’s publication, has repeatedly taken aim at behavioural issues among hardcore football fans.

That brouhaha led to a fan boycott until peace talks between A-League chiefs and fan groups, including the RBB, brokered the return of active supporter groups to the stands.

Jones and Hadley have caught the ire of football fans for airing disparaging references to them on their programs.

In an interview with Wilson about her article last November, Jones compared hardcore football fans to terrorists.

Adidas shoes are also prominent in the clip, despite the club being sponsored by rival brand Nike.

Comment has been sought from Football Federation Australia and Western Sydney Wanderers.

 

[Rowdy]

And they wonder why they need extra-policing ???

twat's" !

Also, often wondered why so many of the front row 'black-shirt syndicate' chose to wear adidas logo's so prominently as well as addidas bucket hats ???

One of the wank's most likely a Rep or associated with the sports apparel company.

 

[Rowdy]

Same shit .... different season

FFA to follow up Sydney derby flares:

The first flares of the season were lit in the Wanderers' active supporter bay at ANZ Stadium, where a record 61,880 turned out to watch Sydney FC thrash their crosstown rivals 4-0.

They came despite the threat of fines and lost points after FFA handed the club a suspended three-point penalty and $50,000 fine in February for bringing the game into disrepute.

Football Federation Australia will review security and police reports from the match, but appear unlikely to activate Western Sydney's suspended penalty.

The flare-lighting came also despite a letter released to Western Sydney members on Friday, in which chief executive John Tsatsimas, coach Tony Popovic and captain Nikolai Topor-Stanley pleaded with members to refrain from doing so.

"As a club we are united to succeed on the pitch and have a flare-free season," the letter read.

"Use of flares and anti-social behaviour is unacceptable and not welcome at our games."

FFA said it intended to review reports on Monday, but probably won't take it further.

"We always said it will have to be an issue of a significant nature," FFA chief executive David Gallop told Fairfax Media.

"The police were by and large comfortable with the crowd behaviour.

"Obviously the flares continue to be a source of frustration and the booing by the fans themselves shows that the vast majority of people don't want to see flares."

The Wanderers' punishment last season came after a small group of away fans ignited about 20 flares, as well as crowd-frightening detonators, during a match against Melbourne Victory at Etihad Stadium.

A week later, Victory were given the same punishment after poor behaviour at the Melbourne derby, when two flares were ripped, missiles were thrown onto the pitch and a TV news crew outside AAMI Park was allegedly assaulted.

At the time, FFA said similar incidents would trigger the suspended sanction and see a points deduction.

 

[Rowdy]

The flare culprits are probably out hunting & bashing clowns as I type.

 

[Forum Phoenix]

These dick heads are not doing it for the club, they're doing it for themselves. Nothing short of cancelling the game will stop them from ripping flares.

So much as I would enjoy seeing WSW be the first team in HAL to score a negative total over 27 rounds, it's simply not going to curb the behaviour.

 

[sydmariner]

what about playing some games behind closed-door's like in europe.

 

[Rowdy]

Frustrated fans call for action on flares:

Pressure is mounting on Football Federation Australia to follow through with fines and points deductions after flares were ignited by Western Sydney Wanderers fans during Saturday's Sydney derby.

Security were forced to extinguish two flares dropped in the middle of the Wanderers' active supporter bay at ANZ Stadium during the second-half of Western Sydney's 4-0 loss to rivals Sydney FC.

The FFA have said they will review security footage of the incident but have indicated it is unlikely they will impose the suspended three-point penalty and $50,000 fine punishment handed down to the Wanderers in February.

Meanwhile, football fans and media commentators have called on the governing body to take a firm stance on crowd behaviour.

Many Wanderers fans also took to social media after the match outraged at those responsible for the flares.

"I am a WSW member and I am a sick of the selfishness shown by a tiny minority. The RBB need to help weed out those who keep letting off flares," Wanderers fan Kevin Skelley said on Facebook.

It was a sentiment shared by fellow Western Sydney fan Debbie Smith, who demanded the club intervene with the running of the Red and Black Bloc supporter group.

"I think we need to disband the RBB and start again. These guys condone flares and let the perpetrators get away," she said.

On Friday, the Wanderers released a statement to fans which condemned the use of flares at matches.

Last season a group of Wanderers fans ignited more than a dozen flares, as well as crowd-frightening detonators, during a match against Melbourne Victory at Etihad Stadium.


A week later, Victory were also punished by the FFA after poor behaviour at the Melbourne derby, including two flares being ripped, missiles thrown onto the pitch and a TV news crew allegedly assaulted outside AAMI Park.

At the time, the FFA said similar incidents would trigger the suspended sanction and see a points deduction.

Five year bans were also threatened for fans caught using flares after Greek supporters ignited close to 30 before and during their June international match with Australia at Etihad Stadium.

 

[Rowdy]

The FFA need to 'walk the talk'

WSW = -3 pts

 

[FFC Mariner]

Lots of booing around us when the narcissistic scum decided to make it all about them (like their chants).

Dock them 3 points and we are 4 points ahead of them. Get in

 

[Tevor]

I was at the game and you just knew at least one would be ripped, it was great timing by them as well since it happened when they conceded a goal. Agree the FFA have made a rod for their own back by letting them off in round 1, should have made an early example of them. Generally speaking their crowd was well behaved giving they copped a spanking. Free rein for MV fans to rip a flare or two this weekend now that the FFA are only interested in getting big crowds this early in the season.

 

[Big Al]

Just put in a designated flare area.

As soon as they are allowed to do it, it won't be cool and they will stop.

That way they can only burn pro pyro fans.

 

[Rowdy]

Football Federation Australia has stopped short of applying a points deduction against Western Sydney Wanderers after three flares were lit during Saturday's record-breaking Sydney derby.

FFA has announced it will extend a suspended three-points deduction, already hanging over the club's head, until the end of the 2016/17 A-League season.

The club was found guilty of bringing the game into disrepute for the use of pyro in February this year.

At the time Wanderers were threatened with a loss of competition points if there were any further infractions during the following 12 months.

Following submissions from the club the FFA has decided not to apply the penalty in the wake of the most recent incident, during which Tony Popovic's men were hammered 4-0 by crosstown rivals Sydney FC.

The governing body issued a show cause notice to Wanderers on Monday. The club has advised FFA they will not appeal the decision.

A-League boss Greg O’Rourke said: “Following the lighting of flares on Saturday night in a section of the Western Sydney Wanderers supporter area, the suspended sanction on the club which was initially enforced up until February 2017 will now be in place up until the end of the Hyundai A-League 2016/17 regular season.

“While we will always consider a range of factors in assessing the seriousness of any anti-social behaviour, the message is simple: If there’s a recurrence of the incident from last Saturday night involving flares identified to be let off in the Western Sydney Wanderers supporter area throughout the remainder of the regular season, FFA may well be left with no alternative other than to deduct points from the club.

“I have spoken with Western Sydney Wanderers CEO John Tsatsimas today and he has expressed his displeasure in what occurred on Saturday night and the Wanderers understand the seriousness of the situation.

“The club will reconnect with their members again this week given a few persons chose to ignore the communication and strong stance against the lighting of flares from John Tsatsimas, Head Coach Tony Popovic and captain Nikolai Topor-Stanley last Friday.”

O’Rourke stated FFA were continuing to investigate the incident from Saturday night and would continue to work with the club to stamp out the actions of a small minority.

“We will continue to work with the authorities and the venue to identify those responsible and proceed with the recently revised FFA banning procedures to ensure the actions of a few do not ruin the experience for the vast majority,” O’Rourke said.

Over 106,000 fans attended matches in Round 1, including an A-League attendance record of 61,880 at the Sydney Derby.

 

[Rowdy]

Sooooo,
if the FFA has announced it will extend a suspended three-points deduction that was supposed to be applied in the very next event (right NOW) of 'flare-ripping'

then ..... by my 'math':
the next time RBB rip a flare they'll be docked 6 pts ...... right !?!!

Criminal justice system works that a suspended sentence given to an offender who then re-offends has their original sentence of punishment (3pts) re-applied & additional punishment also given (another 3 pts) for the crime of re-offending
..... quite simple.

& we are dealing with criminals here, in that I mean when they're not attending games that is
.... so they should be familiar with how this all works.