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The Socceroos thread.

JoyfulPenguin

JoyfulPenguin

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Wombat said:
Are you tripping JP? Duke just got trusted with our most important game in 4 years and you are going to replace him with a flaky maverick like Yengi???
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I take your point Wombat and he did perform decently for us against Peru.

But I think that it's important to reward players who push themselves outside their comfort zone.

I think if we reward players who go to an easier league for money or just to not push themselves then we will create a negative culture.

Any player playing in an Asian second division should not be in a Socceroos squad.

If we don't then I think we are hurting ourselves long term. We need a culture where players need to be playing regularly in good leagues to get a go representing us.

Basically every Australian player we have seen go to China or an oil league comes back a markedly worse footballer.

If we want to compete long term and foster a winning culture it should be non-negotiable that a player is playing in a quality league and not just chasing money.

If we continue to reward players who stifle their own playing futures for profit we will stifle the future of the Socceroos.
 
Wombat

Wombat

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JoyfulPenguin said:
I take your point Wombat and he did perform decently for us against Peru.

But I think that it's important to reward players who push themselves outside their comfort zone.

I think if we reward players who go to an easier league for money or just to not push themselves then we will create a negative culture.

Any player playing in an Asian second division should not be in a Socceroos squad.

If we don't then I think we are hurting ourselves long term. We need a culture where players need to be playing regularly in good leagues to get a go representing us.

Basically every Australian player we have seen go to China or an oil league comes back a markedly worse footballer.

If we want to compete long term and foster a winning culture it should be non-negotiable that a player is playing in a quality league and not just chasing money.

If we continue to reward players who stifle their own playing futures for profit we will stifle the future of the Socceroos.
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I hear you bruv and I have alot of love for you JP but who is Yengi playing for???......and how in the heck are they better than Duke's team? You cannot make a crazy claim that whatever league you are playing in defines the limits of that player.
 
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Ben10

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JoyfulPenguin said:
Mooy is our best midfielder when he is playing in a decent league, China just seems to destroy players. Until he moves on from Shanghai I don't think he should be in the squad.
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I agree with pretty much everything besides this comment regarding Mooy. He ran the game the other night against Peru and he's hardly fit or played a game in months. A fully fit Mooy will bring the class we need. The Chinese League isn't that great, fair enough, but it shouldn't limit him being in the squad.
 
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onto it

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Big Al said:
Stenns?
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Stens will be at the World Cup for sure. He's too versatile and too good to be left out - seems to have taken up the hammer with the CB role at Viking very well.
I've heard he was a little injured in the final qualifiers, and I'd guess Arnie also wanted the experience of Wright alongside Kye.
I'll take a punt and say the future of National CBs is Stens and Kye. If so, wouldn't that be a feather in the Mariners cap?
 
Allreet?

Allreet?

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JoyfulPenguin said:
I don't think Duke should be anywhere near a Socceroos squad. He is playing for a middle table second division Japanese side. If you need a player in his mould take Yengi.
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Duke had an excellent game against Peru. A very Matt Simon type game - hassling the defenders and preventing them playing easy balls into midfield which helped us win possession back numerous times.

Was also a threat with his barging and shooting. Much more effective than MacLaren when he gets no service.

Doesn't matter where you're playing if you're good enough.
 
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