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NRL Hooligans thread

bjw

bjw
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25158517-421,00.html

THE NRL has served 2008 premiers Manly Sea Eagles with a "please explain" notice and may take action against the club following the latest controversy involving star fullback Brett Stewart.

Manly has now been ordered to provide a report explaining why it should not be disciplined after Stewart was allegedly involved in a sexual assault after the club's launch party on Friday night and Anthony Watmough allegedly slapped a club sponsor.

Both were reportedly drinking heavily at the function.

The function held at the Manly Wharf Hotel was attended by sponsors, fans, players and officials and doubled as a celebration of the Sea Eagles' 2008 premiership and recent World Club Championship success.

It has been alleged that Stewart sexually assaulted a 17-year-old girl in the hours after the function.

Stewart, who denies the allegations, is the subject of a police investigation.


"Part of what the situation has thrown up has certainly raised some serious questions around the club function that was held at Manly," NRL chief executive David Gallop said.

"We are expecting a report from Manly, we are conducting our own investigation into that, but clubs need to know that where they are holding team functions and they are serving alcohol they need to manage that appropriately and if they don't manage it appropriately they can expect to get penalties from the league."

Asked if the NRL was considering fining Manly, Gallop replied: "Like I said, we're expecting a report from them.

"We're conducting our own inquiries but clearly there are some serious questions being thrown up about how alcohol was managed at that function."

Earlier, Manly CEO Grant Mayer admitted it may not have been a good decision to hold the function at a public bar.

"Of course you second guess yourself a fair bit but I guess for the time I have been at the club it has been applauded by journalists from around the country in regards to our off field performance and attitude and culture and there was no reason to believe anything like this could happen," Mayer said.

"You look back and and perhaps it wasn't a great decision and there is no doubt the drinking that took place on Friday was unacceptable."

Mayer said the club would take its own action over the drinking later this week.

However he did not rule out imposing alcohol bans on certain players after admitting the level of alcohol drinking by some players had been "unacceptable" at the function.

Manly, however, are not prepared to drop Stewart from its line-up while no charges have been laid and Stewart today joined team-mates for training.

DNA swabs taken from Stewart are being tested by police.

Yesterday, the family of the 17-year-old who says she was attacked by Stewart said the alleged assault had turned their life into a "living nightmare''.

No charges, if any, will be laid until the tests are completed and more witnesses interviewed, including the girl's mother and sisters who claim to have seen the incident.

Clearly distressed, the father said the allegations, which came after Manly's season launch last Friday, had left his family traumatised.

"They're terrified. This is a nightmare for our family," he said yesterday.

Contradicting a police statement issued on Friday, the teenager's father stressed the alleged incident had not occurred in a stairwell but at the gated entrance to a neighbouring townhouse apartment shortly after Stewart arrived home in a taxi.

The father also wanted to end speculation Stewart and his daughter knew each other.

After hearing his daughter screaming, he said he clashed with Stewart, whom he claims was aggressive.

"I'm disgusted by the whole thing - as any father would be," he said.

The father, who fears a backlash from Manly supporters, is today expected to provide police with a statement. He also said his family would leave the complex after moving in only three weeks ago.

"We didn't ask for any of this," he said.

"But now it's happened, we have to deal with it, for what? It just isn't right."
 

Redline

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He still hasn't been charged? Interesting.

I hope the book is thrown at him if he's charged and found guilty. Alternatively, IF he's found innocent, and the lady made things up, or exaggerated, I hope the book is thrown at her. I think what he has allegedly done is disgusting, but it's a few days later, no charges have been laid...unless I missed something in that article which is possible, and he is guilty until proven innocent..thats hour legal system works.

:S

I don't know where that burst of compassion for Stewart came...very odd.
 

northernspirit

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problem is getting enough evidence to make the charge and have it hold up in court, if he isnt charged it doesnt mean he didnt do it either
 

Redline

Well-Known Member
I know...but it's odd that he hasn't been charged...generally from what I can remember, charges are laid fairly quickly.
 

northernspirit

Well-Known Member
that is true - so its probable charges wont be laid unless some evidence is found, the cops are probably working on statements from the girl and her family and stewart... and that alone probably wouldnt be enough
 

FFC Mariner

Well-Known Member
There were reportedly witnesses but investigations into this sort of thing take time.

He has a good lawyer and is keeping his mouth shut - puts the onus on the Police to build a case.
 

FFC Mariner

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Methinks he is now in deep doo doo - also the Watmough thing has blown up badly (lol)

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25167714-26103,00.html


Manly rugby league star Brett Stewart charged over sexual assault

 
March 10, 2009
Article from:  Australian Associated Press

MANLY rugby league star Brett Stewart has been charged with the sexual assault of a teenager after a booze-fuelled season launch in Sydney on Friday.

The Sea Eagles fullback has been under police investigation after being accused of sexually assaulting a 17-year-old girl following the team function last week.

Police say Stewart had been chatting with the 17-year-old about 8pm (AEDT) on Friday outside his apartment block in North Manly before she was allegedly assaulted.

Stewart was arrested a short time later.

At the time, he declined a police interview and was released without charge, pending further investigation.

Stewart, dressed in a suit, arrived at Dee Why police station around 6pm (AEDT) today, accompanied by coach Des Hasler and his lawyer.

After being questioned by police, the footballer was charged with with sexual assault.

"Shortly after 6pm, a 24-year-old North Manly man attended Dee Why police station and was arrested," police said in a statement.

"The man was spoken to by investigators regarding an alleged incident with a 17-year-old girl at a North Manly property during the evening of Friday, 6 March."

Assistant Commissioner Denis Clifford spoke briefly to reporters outside the station after Stewart was charged.

"Police have reached the stage where it was appropriate to charge the 24-year-old. They have done that and the matter is now before the court," he said.

He would not say whether Stewart had provided a statement or been interviewed, but said his lawyer had accompanied him.

Mr Clifford would also not comment on any evidence, including DNA, against Stewart.

"I'm not going to be drawn on a position to discuss any evidence that will be presented," he said.

He called for the media to respect the privacy of the 17-year-old girl.

"I strongly urge all media organisations to respect the privacy of the alleged victim and allow the process of justice to take its course," he said.

Stewart appeared in Manly Local Court earlier today, when Magistrate Margaret Quinn extended an apprehended violence order (AVO) issued by police after Friday night's alleged assault.

The order bans Stewart from approaching or contacting his alleged victim, who lives in the same apartment complex as him.

Stewart have been granted bail to appear at Manly Local Court on April 7.

Mr Clifford said Manly Police were looking into the incident involving fellow Manly player Anthony Watmough.

Watmough has been accused of punching a sponsor after the man told him off for harassing his daughter at the same function.
 

northernspirit

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FFC Mariner said:
There were reportedly witnesses but investigations into this sort of thing take time.

He has a good lawyer and is keeping his mouth shut - puts the onus on the Police to build a case.
keeping his mouth shut? the idiot said he doesnt remember that night cos he was too drunk lol, not a good move
 

FFC Mariner

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You have to wonder about the quality of a sport that allows its "top" players to binge drink/take drugs (Johns) and still "perform".

Shit game, shit people
 

marinermick

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FFC Mariner said:
You have to wonder about the quality of a sport that allows its "top" players to binge drink/take drugs (Johns) and still "perform".

Shit game, shit people

what is more unbelievable is that the club put the players in this situation

holding a season launch at midday in local pub with free piss in inexcusable given rugby league's current plight
 

BrisRecky

I'm an idiot savant without the pesky savant bit
this probably doesnt apply to just the NRL...but how do these pricks keep making bail???
 

ponno

Well-Known Member
Stewart suspended until round five
By staff writers
March 11, 2009 Manly full-back Brett Stewart has been suspended by the NRL until round five over sexaul assault charges that have been laid against him.

In a lengthly meeting at NRL headquarters this morning, Manly were also fined $100,000 by the league over the matter.

More to follow...
 

BrisRecky

I'm an idiot savant without the pesky savant bit
suspended till round 5 !!!!..WOW....that'll learn him....shredding his contract would work better  :soapbox:
 

dibo

Well-Known Member
manly, who are already down the back of the couch looking for spare change to keep their club going, getting fined $100k is a big deal.
 

clarence

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dibo said:
manly, who are already down the back of the couch looking for spare change to keep their club going, getting fined $100k is a big deal.

Have had no sympathy for Manly for years, and this latest saga is not going to change my mind.

I would be very happy if some psychiatric/behavioural science student would do a thesis on this phenomena that has been occurring over the last 10 years or so, where players of teams get involved in some very unsavoury, anti social and sometimes illegal behaviour. Sure we can all sit back and say Oh, NRL....or  "booze does it again' but I think there's a real need to sit down and find out what the hell is going on.

I am almost convinced it has something to do with performance enhancing drugs, or a rampant use of rec. drugs, coupled with very fit men, low fat indexes (so no way of soaking up the booze), a lot of money to burn, a pampered lifestyle.

Anyone who has been on hormones or known someone on them, will understand how the whole thought processes can go out the window at high dosage times as the brain gets twisted by the overload of one group of hormones or the other. You see that in HRT with menopausal women, you see it in people recovering from chemo, and you see it in instances where women are undergoing IVF. And this is in a controlled medical environment, where the uptake of the substances is monitored. Lord knows what substances like steroids, or stuff that came out of the Balco Labs can do to someone.

That's exactly the type of symptom that can lead to an otherwise 'good bloke' turning into a ratbag/alleged criminal, particularly if fuelled by some booze and high emotion (like a season launch).

This is why I'm saying I'm almost convinced that other issues are at play over the time, rather than the usual media spiel of an NRL player who gets pissed and goes off the rails big time.

From what I have heard, Brett Stewart is regarded by his friends as a great guy. With all the previous bad publicity, you have to wonder what drove someone who is reputedly such a good bloke to a point where he has ended up charged with a criminal offence.

I am not alleging that Brett Stewart or Whatmough had been using other stuff, but over the time, there has been a long catalogue of really poor behaviour from this group of sportspeople and that is the issue that should be investigated.

In any usual demographic, the ratio of people not being capable of restraining themself, even under the influence of alcohol, seems a lot lower than that of this demographic. Something is wrong.

Does the NRL test for some high end performance enhancing drugs and have they stepped up their testing since all this outbreak of violent and loutish behaviour has hit the papers?
 

BrisRecky

I'm an idiot savant without the pesky savant bit
Phil Gould was on A Current Affair the other night saying something along the lines of this spate of anti social  behavior is a generational occurence .IE:.back in the 70's no one carried on like this when they all had second jobs ..he then went on to say that the next generation will take the hint and not carry on like the current crop of *cough, cough* superstars...well maybe so Gus..but most people are starting to doubt there will even be a game left for the next generation, at least at this level anyway
 

clarence

Well-Known Member
RECKY said:
Phil Gould was on A Current Affair the other night saying something along the lines of this spate of anti social  behavior is a generational occurence .IE:.back in the 70's no one carried on like this when they all had second jobs ..he then went on to say that the next generation will take the hint and not carry on like the current crop of *cough, cough* superstars...well maybe so Gus..but most people are starting to doubt there will even be a game left for the next generation, at least at this level anyway

Gould was one of the players and later coaches, pushing for full time professional players. He took a leaf from the US gridiron football, and their total approach to their game, and became an apostle of Jack Gibson's work. He is totally absorbed by this 'professional player' approach, you can see it in the way he salivates over statistics, the way he wears a bloody big ring on his finger like the gridiron player get when they win the Super Bowl, the way he has helped to americanise the State of Origin etc.

In short, he helped to promote the arrogance and fulltime idiot syndrome with his own life long advocacy of professionalism. It's only now he is seeing the side effects of such a lifestyle, or maybe wanting to cover up some other practices that have creeped into the players' lives, like their grid iron associates?
 

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