NRL Hooligans thread

[bjw]

Todd Carney was arrested over-night (again, lololol)

and Manly's Fullback (Brett Stewart, I think) has been caught up in a sexual assault charge. The girl is 17, she has a temporary AVO agaisnt him as they live close-by. lolol

 

[Bear]

Todd Carney was arrested over-night (again, lololol)

Cant find story anywhere. What for this time?

This time, lol

 

[Redline]

Carney's arrest will not sway Roosters
BY PETER FITZGERALD AND KYLE MACKEY-LAWS
8/03/2009 10:08:00 AM
TODD Carney's latest run-in with the law won't change a thing with the club he's set to join this week.

Atherton Roosters president Mick Nasser told The Sunday Canberra Times he expected Carney would play for the Roosters in their first home game of the Cairns District Rugby League competition on Saturday.

Nasser's comments come despite Carney being arrested and charged in Goulburn early yesterday morning for allegedly trampling on a car in the city eight days ago.

Carney is scheduled to travel to Cairns tomorrow. He is expected to start working in the Barron Valley Hotel a pub owned by Nasser on Tuesday.

''He might just arrive a bit later than Monday, it's not going to change our view on Todd in my eyes he'll be lining up on the weekend for the Roosters,'' Nasser said.

Nasser defended Carney, claiming the 22-year-old needed to get out of Goulburn as soon as possible.

''It's no big deal to me I've dealt with a lot worse,'' he said. ''He hasn't killed anyone, he hasn't raped anyone, he hasn't murdered anyone [so] it won't jeopardise his playing future here.''

The alleged incident is the latest in a long line of misdemeanours for Carney.

Carney was sacked by the Raiders after multiple drink-driving offences and allegedly urinating on a patron at Canberra night spot All Bar Nun last year, a complaint that was later withdrawn.

The Raiders on Friday officially cleared Carney to play for the Roosters.

And Queensland Rugby League managing director Ross Livermore said the halfback would still be able to play in the league, as early as Saturday.

''He's been registered with the Cairns Rugby League. They just have to forward it to us and we'll sort it from there,'' Livermore told The Sunday Canberra Times yesterday.

''The latest incident, it's a private matter. Something like that is an issue to everybody but as far as registering his contract is concerned, it's not something we would interfere with.''

Last weekend's incident allegedly occurred moments after Carney was evicted from the Goulburn Workers Club.

Two men one of who was Carney were allegedly captured on CCTV footage jumping on a motor vehicle parked outside the club, causing damage to it.

On Friday the security vision was provided to investigators, and Carney was arrested at the Carlton Hotel in Goulburn yesterday morning at 12.15am.

Nasser believed the incident summed up Carney's life in his home city.

''If it was someone else you'd never hear about it,'' he said.

''He was probably just mucking around and damaged a car or whatever, and now he needs to fix it up.

''But whoever's car it was I think once they've realised it was Todd they would have jumped up and down about it to get something done. He's got a target on him in Goulburn, that's why he just wants to get away from it all.''

 

[FFC Mariner]

And another one of these sick f**kers is at it. Gallop is so impotent he could be on the MRP

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/03/08/2510365.htm?section=sport

or from Fairfax

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/national/national/sport/parents-rushed-to-the-aid-of-screaming-daughter/1453186.aspx

Parents rushed to the aid of screaming daughter
LES KENNEDY
8/03/2009 12:47:03 AM

SHORTLY before taking their daughter to Dee Why Police Station to make a statement late yesterday, the parents of the girl who has made allegations of sexual assault against Brett Stewart spoke to The Sun-Herald about the events.

The 17-year-old girl's mother said her daughter had been standing next to a driveway on Pittwater Road in Manly .

She was having a cigarette when Sea Eagles rugby league player Brett Stewart, who lives in the suburb, allegedly approached her about 8pm.

"We frown upon her smoking but my husband and I say that if she wants to smoke she cannot do it in our home because of her younger sisters," the girl's mother said.

The woman, who, like her daughter cannot be identified for legal reasons, said she and her husband rushed to her aid upon hearing her scream.

"She was calling out, she was screaming," he said.

"All I can say is that we are going down to the police station now and they are taking it quite seriously.

"We have been living here only three weeks but we are moving from these premises."

A male neighbour, who did not want to be identified, said that the first he knew of the incident was when the girl's father banged on his door and asked him to call the police.

He said a scuffle ensued between the father and Stewart.

"The father came to us for help," the neighbour said.

"He asked to call the police, which we did. We did not see or hear anything nor see the girl.

"There was a bit of a scuffle between the father and Brett, then the police arrived. We stayed out of it.

"The girl's father was very angry and yelling. He was seething."

Police returned to Stewart's unit yesterday morning and served an interim apprehended violence order upon the footballer. The order prohibits him making contact with the alleged victim and her family.

Stewart was not at the residence last night.

Last night, no charges had been made in relation to the incident

 

[Redline]

They have to reach a point where they cant continue, surely.

 

[FFC Mariner]

And another Manly player reportedly slapped a sponsor at the season launch - can you imagine what CCM would do if that happened here?

 

[bjw]

Todd Carney was arrested over-night (again, lololol)

Cant find story anywhere. What for this time?

This time, lol

CCTV caught him jumping on the bonnets of cars and smashing cars with glasses and bottles.

 

[bulldogmariner]

Todd Carney was arrested over-night (again, lololol)

Cant find story anywhere. What for this time?

This time, lol

CCTV caught him jumping on the bonnets of cars and smashing cars with glasses and bottles.

Cannot believe that this bozo has not learnt from his mistakes. Maybe a extended period of time in Goulburn Gaol might help him learn his lesson.

 

[Bear]

If an average joe had been caught doing the things this guy has, they probably would have done a short stint.

 

[serious14]

Sexual assault of a minor??  Why is this c*nt not in jail??

 

[FFC Mariner]

Refused to make a statement and they obviously dont have enough evidence to charge him yet - medical evidence?

Also, as a National Rapist League player, he is exempt from the laws that apply to us lesser mortals

 

[dibo]

Refused to make a statement and they obviously dont have enough evidence to charge him yet - medical evidence?

i'm not game (or rich enough) to go making calls on his guilt or innocence, but i will say that in the circumstances (he'd been drinking all day) it's probably wise on his part to not make a statement at that time. it'll all come out in time.

 

[clarence]

Todd Carney was arrested over-night (again, lololol)

Cant find story anywhere. What for this time?

This time, lol

CCTV caught him jumping on the bonnets of cars and smashing cars with glasses and bottles.

Cannot believe that this bozo has not learnt from his mistakes. Maybe a extended period of time in Goulburn Gaol might help him learn his lesson.

So much for the end of last season trip to Africa, mending huts and helping the young folks there etc...

He tried to get into the English Super League, but knocked back as the authorities wouldn't grant the club the appropriate visa.

Before this latest episode, he was reputedly working at a country pub, living there, and playing for the local RL team. And Canberra were mortified that he'd be living at a pub. Obviously has troubles handling alcohol and his ego at the same time.

there's only so many lifelines people will throw you before they give up, so I hope he wakes up to himself soon and knocks the grog on the head and sorts his life out. Otherwise, he's heading for the gutter.

 

[dibo]

SMH today: It's all too easy to put the blame on football

Catharine Lumby | March 9, 2009

Men behaving badly towards women is a problem in all levels of society, not just rugby league, writes  Catharine Lumby.

Another footy season. Another alleged assault on a woman. Maybe if we got rid of the NRL or the AFL all of these allegations of violence against women would stop.

And if it was that easy I'd be joining the queue to have footy banned. As someone who has worked on education programs for league players about their off-field behaviour I have to admit I feel like punching a wall every time the front pages light up with fresh allegations.

The standard media analysis for past allegations goes this way: "Footy players are obviously thugs. They're paid too much. They can't cope with the fame. They think they can get away with anything or anyone they want."

The solution? Apparently we keep them away from money, booze and women and only let them out to entertain us - gladiator style - on the paddock. After that we lock them in their bedrooms and put bars on the windows.

It would be truly wonderful if solving violence against women and children were so simple. Unfortunately, 85 per cent of sexual assaults against women go unreported in Australia. The handful brought before the courts are committed by a disturbingly large range of men. Some make too much money in other professions: like merchant banking or medicine. Others are role models: teachers and priests.

Sexual and physical violence against women and children is genuinely epidemic. There are - and this beggars belief - still men walking around who think that women "ask for it" because of how they're dressed. There are men who think their wives and their kids "belong" to them.

The good news is that we've come a long way from the days when domestic violence was considered something that should be left for wives to sort out with their husbands. I have vivid memories of seeing that exact scenario played out in the town where I grew up, though fortunately not in my own home. In the past a lot of sexual assault and violence prevention work focused solely on assisting survivors to recover and ensuring the perpetrators were brought to justice. That work remains important. But moving things forward will involve more: it means focusing on prevention, not just on repairing the damage.

The manager of Rape Crisis NSW, Karen Willis, who also works with the NRL, exemplifies this new direction. Like many in her field, she has spent her career underpaid and overworked helping survivors of assault. She also does innovative research, with Professor Moira Carmody at the University of Western Sydney, into how to prevent this violence in the first place.

Their work points to one overwhelming conclusion: stopping violence against women means recognising that it happens across social classes and realising that we have to start young if we want to change the attitudes and behaviours that give men excuses to abuse women and children.

People like Willis continue to work with the NRL because they have a real commitment to changing the culture. She and I are under no illusions that every footy player will live up to the basic expectations that are set for them.

But we also recognise that the NRL is a male-dominated organisation that is actually working for change and that there are lots of other organisations we'd like to see following their lead.

The alternative? We could, of course, sit back and think we can spot the men who assault women by their postcode, their sporting code or how prominently the assault is featured in the media. The statistics point in the other direction: the assault of women and children is a problem we all need to take responsibility for and work to change.

Professor Catharine Lumby is the director of the journalism and media research centre at UNSW. She is on the education and welfare committee of the National Rugby League.

 

[Jesus]

Sexual assault of a minor??  Why is this c*nt not in jail??

17 aint a minor under the law is it? It is considered simply rape. Still, if you or I..

 

[marinermick]

If all this is true I hope he goes to jail. A young, fit man like him will make plenty of friends in prison.

 

[mariners4ever]

If all this is true I hope he goes to jail. A young, fit man like him will make plenty of friends in prison.

bet ya he doesnt

 

[dibo]

if he's found guilty he's not exactly going to be having tea with the queen.

the fact that a lot of NRL players have got off in the past is more a function of the fact that it's hard to make convictions stick in this area of the law in any circumstances, but particularly when the accused is a recognised and respected person acting 'out of character' and the plaintiff is 'just some groupie'.

 

[dibo]

SMH (certainly worth a read, if only for the observations on netball): At the end of the day less money from pokies makes rugby league the winner

    * Lisa Pryor
    * March 7, 2009

Uh-oh. The future of leagues clubs no longer looks as bright as the carpets within them. Clubs lost millions of dollars last year. St George and Easts lost almost $2 million between them. Parramatta lost a record $7.8 million. Thanks to taxes, indoor smoking restrictions and the global financial crisis, pokie palaces have been hemorrhaging money faster than a gaming lounge of problem gamblers on pension day.

Jobs are going and rugby league teams are at risk, as Denis Fitzgerald, chief executive of Parramatta Leagues Club, told the Herald last week. "If we don't improve our overall position we won't be able to spend up to our salary cap that would make it difficult for us to be competitive on the field."

OK. So fewer people are spending up big on the pokies and this means less funding for one of the most thuggish sports. What exactly is supposed to be the downside?

I admit leagues clubs are not without their charms. Having spent many a happy family lunch in such a club, I know the joy of tucking into chicken parmigiana that has been in the bain marie just long enough to achieve that chewy je ne sais quoi along the edges; the temptation of popping away from the bistro to drop a cheeky dollar or two on Queen of the Nile, hoping against hope for those three glowing pyramids. And remember, the money goes back into the community, as the clubs like to say. With one hand they taketh away plastic bucketfuls of dollar coins; with the other hand they giveth back cheap carrot cake and easy-listening concerts.

But rugby league is not such a fundamental good in our society that clubs deserve sympathy for their financial demise. The sooner rugby league clubs move away from the time-honoured pokie-sport nexus, in which money is redistributed from idiots to boofheads, the better. If wonky balance sheets are a sign that rugby league clubs will be forced to be more creative and responsible in fund-raising, it is reason for celebration, not commiseration.

Clubs are quick to point out that there is more at stake than the millions of dollars they shell out in player salaries each year. It's also about the kiddies. As the Fox Sports website reported on Thursday, the NRL's chief executive, David Gallop, said of the losses: "That will impact not only on the NRL but also junior football and that is a great shame." And then: "The pokie tax has made it difficult for all footy clubs. It's not a new problem and our warning about how hard the pokie tax will bite is ringing true."

What about those junior players Gallop speaks of? In the age of obesity, isn't it more important than ever to get young people involved in sport? How can league enjoy a prosperous future without priming the next generation of elite players for misbehaving in nightclub toilets and bidding up the price of waterfront property?

Let's consider the statistics. Rugby league simply isn't a big player when it comes to getting children active, an analysis by the National Centre for Culture and Recreation Statistics shows. For boys, the most popular sports are outdoor soccer, Aussie rules, cricket, then tennis. Rugby league comes a distant sixth, attracting fewer than half the boys that soccer attracts.

If rugby league clubs think they are doing it tough, they should talk to netball clubs. Without pokie palaces devoted to their upkeep, representative netballers are paid a fraction of what league players receive. Netball gets more than twice as many Australian children active as rugby league. The top netball players are true role models. Many go their whole lives without once weeing on unsuspecting members of the opposite sex for entertainment, or engaging in extracurricular head butting.

Given how poorly so many league players cope with big salaries and lots of free time, less money could be a boon to the game. In theory if players relied more on genuine community support and corporate sponsorship, they would have a greater incentive to behave properly.

Perhaps the real fear of league administrators is that the reality is very different. The commitment of elite players to the code and the community would be revealed as shallow indeed if the money dwindled and the best players ran off to France to play rugby union.

 

[Redline]

THat's a quality article. The leagues clubs used to be a good spot to go see a live band on a Friday night, or play pool and snooker after work during the week...in a comp...none of that now.