"I for one welcome our insect overlords" - The Politics Thread

[pjennings]

Well they bloody do now thanks to the snitch

Read the Puzzle Palace - they have been getting data from the NSA since the 1950s.

 

[true believer]

A government spokesperson said the new plant is "not a government project" and as such "any additional costs or schedule overruns are the responsibility of EDF and its partners and will in no way fall on taxpayers".

Sounds like this EDF mob are useless, not the nuclear plant itself. Not sure what this proves to anyone. Also worth nothing that a Chinese firm, China General Nuclear Power Group (CGN), a state-run company, declined to plough more funding into the project beyond its contracted term in 2023.

Plenty of nuclear power success stories to go around, it's silly to argue otherwise.

Interesting to note nowhere in those articles does it say "what an abject failure" nuclear power generation is and true believer is throwing around insults tantamount to libel.

Is constructing new power generation expensive? Yes.
The trade off is it doesn't take 4000 acres to generate the same. England isn't rich in land mass, bruh.

Try making your argument without ad hominems.

pure bullshit . the premises of cheap power is a fraud .at 50 Billion pounds for 3.2 GW of power .
thats 97,000,000,000 dollars au .australia would need around 32 GW to cover are current demand. thats
a tad under a trillion. in todays dollars .you'd be lucky to get them on line for decades as it took hinkley point C

these reactors are prohibitively expensive . never mind .we don't have 60 years experience or running
safe reactors like windscale ,chernobyl ,fukushima ,3 mile island etc .

what the myth of ,never will be built, nuclear power stations .is deflecting you from . doing anything about the green house catastrophe we are in .
spacks and other LNP puppets are hoping you look anywhere else but at the problem .

thats untill we are getting gangbanged by a global emissions intensity scheme .which turns australia into argentine .this isn't far away .

 

[true believer]

BaCk ThAt Up WiTh EvIdEnCE

nothing to see here

‘That Doesn’t Make Any Sense’: Mehdi Hasan Baffled by Jill Stein’s Non-Answer to Putin Question - NewsBreak

Mehdi Hasan grilled Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein as to whether Russian President Vladimir Putin is a war criminal, prompting an evasive response that seemed to perplex the journalist. The post ‘That Doesn’t Make Any Sense’: Mehdi Hasan Baffled by Jill Stein’s Non-Answer to...

www.newsbreak.com

say it isn't true jill

Jill Stein paid $100,000 to a Republican consulting firm led by a suspected January 6 rioter

The Green Party leader has hired a GOP consulting firm and worked with Trump-affiliated lawyers

www.salon.com

not exxon to jill

Jill Stein Is Killing the Green Party

With membership at new lows and no electoral wins to their name, it’s time for the Greens to ditch the malignant narcissist who’s presided over its decline.

newrepublic.com

check out jill from 5:30 minutes

 

[true believer]

No surprises when confronted with factual information and sources, you run away away with your tail between your legs without even acknowledging this post, @true believer.

oooooh is that when cando .imposed a a royally after labor wanted to put a resource rent tax on gina , clive and other IPA griffers .to pay for sacking 14,000 public servants , you know like cops , nurses ,ambo's

and then you come at me with what I said 5 pages later! You can't even come up with your own shit, bruh!

what are you saying HPC isn't going to cost now 50 billion pounds .good one

 

[true believer]

what we do know is the lying LNP killed, under keith pitt. every storage facility that came across his desk.
barnay past out on a park bench joyce .is doing what ever he can to stop transmission lines being run in the bush .
vandalism is a way of life for the LNP stooges

 

[Spacks]

they don't have hundreds of thousands being poured in their cayman island bank accounts like jill though

Yeah this claim is what I want sources on, nothing else.

 

[true believer]

Yeah this claim is what I want sources on, nothing else.

well what account do you believe an obvious stooge like stein is receiving payment ?
do you believe tulsi gabbard was a real RT democrat without a cayman or other account ?
do you believe democrat kyrsten sinema wasn't on the GOP payroll ?

maybe you can find which LNP members sold water licenses and put the money in cayman island bank accounts ?
shush angus


of course we're still waiting for "facts" on "Lower Emissions = Lower productivity and lower GDP"
tic tic tic

 

[Spacks]

well what account do you believe an obvious stooge like stein is receiving payment ?
do you believe tulsi gabbard was a real RT democrat without a cayman or other account ?
do you believe democrat kyrsten sinema wasn't on the GOP payroll ?

Lol

 

[Spacks]

maybe you can find which LNP members sold water licenses and put the money in cayman island bank accounts ?
shush angus.

It's not on me to find sources for your outlandish claims lol

of course we're still waiting for "facts" on "Lower Emissions = Lower productivity and lower GDP"
tic tic tic

Considering Australia currently uses over 50% fossil fuels in its generation of electricity, I don't think it's a wild claim that requires sources.
NO FOSSIL FUELS = REDUCED PRODUCTIVITY,
REDUCED PRODUCTIVITY = REDUCED OUTPUT OF PRODUCTS
REDUCED PRODUCTS = REDUCED $$

Pretty simple concept.

There's the source of over 50% fossil fuels.

 

[true believer]

Lol

selective edit . ok

 

[true believer]

It's not on me to find sources for your outlandish claims lol

Considering Australia currently uses over 50% fossil fuels in its generation of electricity, I don't think it's a wild claim that requires sources.
NO FOSSIL FUELS = REDUCED PRODUCTIVITY,
REDUCED PRODUCTIVITY = REDUCED OUTPUT OF PRODUCTS
REDUCED PRODUCTS = REDUCED $$

Pretty simple concept.

There's the source of over 50% fossil fuels.

very selective edit . it's the sort of duplicity you get from conservatives that have done everything in their power to Stifle renewables . it's what you get from stooges that haven't had an energy policy since kyoto .
it's up there with magical mystical nuclear reactors that would take 40 years plus to built at a trillion dollars, on todays costs . regardless of a munmorah meltdown (HCP for costs)

 

[pjennings]

very selective edit . it's the sort of duplicity you get from conservatives that have done everything in their power to Stifle renewables . it's what you get from stooges that haven't had an energy policy since kyoto .
it's up there with magical mystical nuclear reactors that would take 40 years plus to built at a trillion dollars, on todays costs . regardless of a munmorah meltdown (HCP for costs)

How long did it take to build those imaginery car par parks they promised.

 

[Spacks]

selective edit . ok

what do you mean selective? I was laughing at the fact you never addressed the claim you made about Jill Stein receiving hundreds of thousands into her cayman bank account. You made that claim! Back it up with evidence!

very selective edit . it's the sort of duplicity you get from conservatives that have done everything in their power to Stifle renewables . it's what you get from stooges that haven't had an energy policy since kyoto .
it's up there with magical mystical nuclear reactors that would take 40 years plus to built at a trillion dollars, on todays costs . regardless of a munmorah meltdown (HCP for costs)

No sense debating things with you if you aren't going to do it in good faith.

For context, he said I needed to provide facts:

of course we're still waiting for "facts" on "Lower Emissions = Lower productivity and lower GDP"
tic tic tic

I countered with

Considering Australia currently uses over 50% fossil fuels in its generation of electricity, I don't think it's a wild claim that requires sources.
NO FOSSIL FUELS = REDUCED PRODUCTIVITY,
REDUCED PRODUCTIVITY = REDUCED OUTPUT OF PRODUCTS
REDUCED PRODUCTS = REDUCED $$

Pretty simple concept.

There's the source of over 50% fossil fuels.

Not sure how you could come to the conclusion I've edited my posts selectively.

 

[Spacks]

it's up there with magical mystical nuclear reactors that would take 40 years plus to built at a trillion dollars, on todays costs . regardless of a munmorah meltdown (HCP for costs)

You got a source on that timeframe and costing?

All commercial nuclear reactors use nuclear fission. As of July 2024, there are 415 operable power reactors in the world, with a combined electrical capacity of 373.7 GW

List of commercial nuclear reactors - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

List of nuclear power stations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[true believer]

How long did it take to build those imaginery car par parks they promised.

that's just typical griff

 

[true believer]

You got a source on that timeframe and costing?

All commercial nuclear reactors use nuclear fission. As of July 2024, there are 415 operable power reactors in the world, with a combined electrical capacity of 373.7 GW

List of commercial nuclear reactors - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

List of nuclear power stations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

hcp posted already .as i told you . or HINKLEY POINT C if thats not to hard .
how long do you think a nation with no experience in reactors would take to build ten of these pieces of shit ? 40 years would be optimistic

just stop bullshitting for the coal industry .reactors will never be built
lets face it buffoons like your have already f**ked us into 415ppm of co2
upps it's 422.12ppm now
you haven't got a bunker in new zealand like various billionaires to avoid the apocalypse
which is already down the path of no return .

well done mate . job done for gina

 

[Spacks]

hcp posted already .as i told you . or HINKLEY POINT C if thats not to hard .
how long do you think a nation with no experience in reactors would take to build ten of these pieces of shit ? 40 years would be optimistic

Hinkley Point C is one nuclear reactor out of hundreds, plenty of success stories in the wiki links I provided (I seem to be the one providing sources for all my arguments).
Our first students of the Nuclear Propulsion training center in America have graduated, so we're getting that experience!

In another significant milestone for the Australia, United Kingdom, United States enhanced trilateral security partnership AUKUS, the first seven Royal Australian Navy enlisted sailors have graduated from the United States Navy Nuclear Power School.

just stop bullshitting for the coal industry .reactors will never be built
lets face it buffoons like your have already f**ked us into 415ppm of co2

I'm engaging in debate about the NUCLEAR industry, try and keep up!

upps it's 422.12ppm now
you haven't got a bunker in new zealand like various billionaires to avoid the apocalypse
which is already down the path of no return .

It's entirely possible they're building bunkers to survive the next 'Younger Dryas' event, not the rising carbon dioxide. You should look that one up to put the fear up yah clacker.

Maybe even the fact that if the Northern Hemisphere gets into a nuclear weapon exchange, the radioactive fallout crossing the equator could be marginal.

Sagan and Turco predict a grim scenario for even a "marginal" nuclear winter. They calculate that a few nuclear detonations above urban centers in a contained nuclear war could lower temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere by a few degrees. Agricultural production would suffer, resulting in famine — especially if accompanied by severe drought. While a great deal of the ash would return to Earth in black rains, much would remain in the upper atmosphere. Sagan and Turco predict that the deaths from such a nuclear winter would equal those killed in the nuclear war. Everything below the equator would remain mostly unaffected, given the hemispheric separation of air currents and the fact that most nuclear targets exist in the Northern Hemisphere.






Source #1: https://www.contactairlandandsea.co...ilors-graduate-from-usn-nuclear-power-school/

Source #2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas

Source #3: https://science.howstuffworks.com/nuclear-winter.htm#:~:text=Everything below the equator would,exist in the Northern Hemisphere.

 

[true believer]

So the latest british reactor .with the design characterists we need isn't the one you want to use.

For reasons ?

But but more coal

 

[Spacks]

So the latest british reactor .with the design characterists we need isn't the one you want to use.

For reasons ?

But but more coal

Cite where I said anything remotely close to this.

EPR (nuclear reactor) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In fact, it looks me like China were quite successful with their plants of the same design.

The Taishan Nuclear Power Plant (Chinese: 台山核电站; pinyin: Táishān Hédiànzhàn) is a nuclear power plant in Taishan, Guangdong province, China.[3] The plant features two operational EPR reactors.

Cost: US$7.5 billion
Plants: 2 × 1660 MW

 

[FFC Mariner]

Cite where I said anything remotely close to this.

EPR (nuclear reactor) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In fact, it looks me like China were quite successful with their plants of the same design.

The Taishan Nuclear Power Plant (Chinese: 台山核电站; pinyin: Táishān Hédiànzhàn) is a nuclear power plant in Taishan, Guangdong province, China.[3] The plant features two operational EPR reactors.

Cost: US$7.5 billion
Plants: 2 × 1660 MW

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