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Australia's bid for the 2018 or 2022 World Cup

Bex

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Don't know if it's been mentioned on ccmfans at all, but Qantas are running a good George Negus article on football and the world cup. Saw it on the way over to Adelaide today. Ran for about half an hour and focused on how much of a big deal the world cup would be for Australia and how football is the only world game. Even went so far as to say that the most popular AFL or NRL player would not be known overseas. It wasn't bad although I would have liked it more if George had described some of the reasons the game is so interesting rather than just saying it was all the time.
 

midfielder

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Said way back on page 27...


Qatar is way to hot to hold the WC.. But they present a real problem for us in getting to the finals rouinds ... Look at the figures below and if Qatar take the Asian vote and as some suspect have the AFc vote ... they have 8 votes ... enough to maybe take Australia out in the early rounds..
page 20 of this thread


Confederation ... Votes....  Aus . US .. Japan .. Oatar                     

Oceania.................1 ........1
CONMEBOL ............3 ..............3
CONCACAF ............3...............3
CAF ..................4 .............................4
AFC ..................4 ........1...........1........2
Sub Total ..........15 ........2.....6.....1..........6
UEFA ................7
British Special .....1
El Presidente .......1
Total ..............24

Assume UEFA gets us to the final three now
                   

Said Back on page 25


These are the numbers that really matter in getting through the first rounds� The 24 members of the FIFA executive

Made up of El Presidente (Honest John he is called ERrrrrr) + the following:
(a) CONMEBOL vice-president (1) members (2)
(B) AFC vice-president (1) members (3)
© UEFA vice-presidents (2) members (5)
(d) CAF vice-president (1) members (3)
(e) CONCACAF vice-president (1) members (2)
(f) OFC vice-president (1) member (�)
(g) the four British vice-president (1) member (�)
Associations

You need 13 delegates to win the bid.
The way I see it.
Qatar might feel confident in sewing up the 4 African votes and 2-3 Asian votes.
USA will get the 3 Concacaf and 3 Conmebol votes
Aussies will be hoping we get the European vote. Otherwise the bid is in trouble.

Now why Qatar will not win the final bid ... but will save face and not go out to early ... is

Based on the 64 games played and minimum required stadium size the WC as an event has at least 2.46million tickets yet the population is around 1mill. No country that small can support those requirements. No country that small can arrange transport and travel for an extra 2million visitors that would be needed

Also temps in the Gulf regularly reach mid to high 50s in the summer. I saw it reach 62 once!. You cant concieve of how much hotter than 40 deg that is unless youve experienced it. Sitting still is stressful and exhausting. Playing worldcup football is not even imaginable.

The idea of airconditioning a large stadium in these sorts of conditions is a myth. Just because a couple of Sheiks have the typical gulf attitude of �dont bother me with details , just make it happen�..doesnt mean it will.

I just cant see how staging a WC cup there is even possible let alone desireable.


So were does it all come down to now the two votes have been lost ...

SBS said tonight the Oceania votr for 2022 was going to the US HHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMM

I pinched the next bid from another forum this is were we need some folk who understand how to twist arms and apply pressure.. this goes a tad further than the above two articles...

analysis from another forum:

Remember the accusation was that "Spain would deliver their own + 3 Sth American votes (total 4) to Qatar in 2022 in exchange for Qatar delivering their own + 2 Africa votes (total 3) to Spain in 2018". Possible that this is still happening, they just weren't caught?

Nth America: Expect to vote for USA? Jack said good things about Aus bid though
Jack A. WARNER Trinidad and Tobago [' USA?']
Chuck BLAZER USA [' USA ']
Rafael SALGUERO Guatemala [' USA ']

Sth America: Expect to vote for USA? But take into account Spain/Qatar deal, and Aus on good terms with Paraguay.
Julio H. GRONDONA Argentina ['USA or Qatar']
Nicolás LEOZ Paraguay [' Aus? ']
Ricardo Terra TEIXEIRA Brazil ['USA or Qatar']

Asia: Expect to vote for their own. Thailand for Aus since we are part of ASEAN.
CHUNG Mong Joon Korea Republic ['Korea'] then ['Aus']
Mohamed BIN HAMMAM Qatar ['Qatar']
Worawi MAKUDI Thailand [' Aus ']
Junji OGURA Japan ['Japan'] then ['Aus']

Africa: Qatar promised a couple for Spain - which? Lets hope one was Adamu! Don't forget charity work Aus bid did in Africa around WC time.
Issa HAYATOU Cameroon ['Qatar or Aus']
<s>Amos ADAMU Nigeria</s>
Jacques ANOUMA Côte d'Ivoire ['Aus?']
Hany ABO RIDA Egypt ['Qatar ?']

Oceania: Good one Temarii! You had one job to do! :-/
<s>Reynald TEMARII Tahiti</s>

So far - lets say Japan and Korea first eliminated:
USA ~3-5
Qatar ~2-5
Australia ~3-6

Now... Europe: This will be the key!
Joseph S. BLATTER Switzerland
Ángel María VILLAR LLONA Spain ['Qatar?']
Michel PLATINI France
Geoff THOMPSON England
Michel D'HOOGHE Belgium
Senes ERZIK Turkey [' Aus? ']
Marios LEFKARITIS Cyprus
Vitaly MUTKO Russia
Franz BECKENBAUER Germany [' Aus ']

I think it will all come down to how influential Beckenbauer is!

Interesting to see how many of those nations Australia has played friendlies against in the last year - USA, Paraguay, Korea, Egypt and Switzerland!
 

midfielder

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Governal General to present our bid.. good to see...

http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/2009InsideFFA/default.aspx?s=insideffa_newsfeatures_newsitem_new&id=36922

Governor General to lead delegation
Wednesday, 24 November 2010
Governor General, Ms Quentin Bryce, will lead Australia’s delegation to the 2022 FIFA World Cup™ Host Announcement on December 2 in Zurich, Football Federation Australia Chairman Frank Lowy AC announced today.

Ms Bryce, who is the patron of women’s football in Australia, will also play a role in Australia’s final presentation to be delivered before the FIFA Executive Committee on December 1.

“I am honoured to be leading such an important delegation which is on a mission that could have tremendous benefits for the entire nation,” Ms Bryce said.

“We will be presenting a very strong case for Australia to FIFA on how we could hold a fantastic 2022 FIFA World Cup™ in our beautiful and friendly country.”

Mr Lowy said FFA was delighted the Governor General had agreed to lead the delegation.

“FFA is extremely honoured that our country’s head of state will lead our delegation of proud and distinguished Australians hoping to secure the biggest sporting event in the world for Australia,” Mr Lowy said.

“The Governor-General’s presence is bound to impress our friends at FIFA and her Excellency’s participation in the final presentation is a major boost to our campaign at such a crucial stage.

“We have enjoyed unequivocal Government support at every stage of this amazing journey and to be able to produce an Australian Government representative of the stature of the Governor-General at this time is a great coup.”

Other presenters will include Mr Lowy and FFA CEO Ben Buckley.
The delegation will also include Federal Sports Minister Mark Arbib who will also be representing the Government.

“The Sports Minister has been a great supporter of the bid and has been working tirelessly behind the scenes,” Mr Buckley said.

Each bidding nation is given 30 minutes to present to the FIFA Executive Committee before they vote to decide the hosting nations and Australia’s final presentation will be directed by award-winning director Phillip Noyce who will also be part of the delegation in Zurich.

Australia will be the first nation to make a final presentation to the FIFA Executive Committee before it decides the hosts of the 2018 and 2022 FIFA World Cups.
Australia has been drawn to present at 14.00 CET (Midnight AEDT) in Zurich at the Home Of FIFA on December 1.

It will be streamed live on www.fifa.com

Australia’s final presentation concept includes live speeches from the Governor-General, Mr Lowy and Mr Buckley.

A short film has been produced highlighting famous Australians in iconic Australian locations as part of our Final Presentation at the direction of Noyce.

The final decision on the host nations for the 2018 and 2022 FIFA World Cups™ will be announced from 4pm CET (2am AEDT) on December 2 and will be broadcast live on Foxsports, SBS, One HD and ABC 24.
 

midfielder

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What can you say .... heaps moe articles today and yesterday ... from the Roar on the financial side of things..It is quite a good article from Doug Conway

Love his line .. " These are the men who will rule on Australia’s bid"
http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/11/26/2022-world-cup-whats-at-stake-and-who-will-decide/

By Doug Conway
Yesterday



2022 World Cup: What’s at stake and who will decide
If one event can make the five-ring circus of the Olympic Games seem modest it’s football’s World Cup. If the 2022 championship comes down under following next week’s FIFA executive committee bid vote, Australia can expect what football chief Frank Lowy calls a “nation-changing event”.

The Olympics consume one city for a fortnight.

The World Cup consumes a whole nation for a month.

It is watched on TV not just by most people in most places but – forgive some poetic licence – practically everyone everywhere.

The estimated cumulative audience is four or five times the world’s population.

Governing body FIFA has 208 member countries – more than the IOC or the United Nations.

If Australia wins FIFA’s vote in Zurich on December 2, the event will embrace much more than the 10 match cities – Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth, Adelaide, Townsville, Gold Coast, Newcastle, Canberra and Geelong.

The fact that 64 base camps must be selected – two per team – will bring regional Australia into play in a big way.

Think of the way the Socceroos went rural, opting to make home in a swish chateau in leafy southern Germany in 2006, then a five-star hunting lodge outside Johannesburg at the 2010 World Cup.

The 32 finalists will also spread themselves across 48 training grounds – the 12 match venues plus three others within striking distance of each.

The sheer scale of the World Cup surprises even those who have a good idea what to expect.

That was the experience of seasoned Australian players like Lucas Neill and Craig Moore in 2006.

“Nothing can really prepare you for it,” said Moore.

“The whole world really is watching,” said Neill.

Launching a bid is in itself a massive logistical undertaking.

Australia’s cost around $45 million, rumoured to be half the amount spent by the United States.

It’s to be hoped size doesn’t count, for Australia’s bid book, handsomely bound in kangaroo leather, runs to 764 pages, a mere novelette compared with 1250 pages for England’s 2018 World Cup tilt and 1700 for Australia’s main rival the US.

Australia’s bid was accompanied by 84,000 pages of annexes.

That is a reflection of how detailed FIFA’s specifications and requirements are, from big-ticket items like seating capacity, car parking, proximity to airports and CBDs, ticketing, accreditation, accommodation, transport, hospitality, medical facilities, doping control, broadcasting and environmental issues to minutiae like flagpoles and the width of players tunnels.

“This is arguably the most competitive events bid ever,” said Stuart Taggart, head of bid operations for Australia.

“FIFA has never before decided two host cities at once (2018 and 2022), and rarely do nine sophisticated countries get involved in such a big bidding process as far as 12 years out from the event.”

FIFA’s executive committee will decide hosts for both the 2018 World Cup – from a field including England, Russia, Belgium/Netherlands and Portugal/Spain – and the 2022 event from the US, Australia, Qatar, Japan and South Korea.

“It does afford the winners the opportunity to deliver the best ever World Cup because they have so long to plan it,” said Taggart.

FIFA’s plan was to maximise revenue streams over such a long lead-up time, but critics say 12 years is too long in advance to name a host city.

Much can change in that time, they argue, and what looks like a perfect host in 2010 can end up being far from it in 2022.

One thing that won’t change any time soon, if ever, is the World Cup’s pre-eminent place in global sport.

Billions of dollars are involved.

Australia’s bid puts a price tag of $2.8 billion on readying the country for the extravaganza.

But much more is at stake in terms of television rights, tourism and other economic benefits, not to mention the inestimable value added to Australia’s standing in the world.

Australia’s bid includes an economic impact analysis which forecasts $3.9 billion in direct expenditure from items including tickets, accommodation and meals.

It is based on projections of 4.7 million spectators and expects to create 74,000 full-time equivalent jobs and an increase in gross domestic product (GDP) of $5.3 billion.

If Australia gets the nod on December 2 in Zurich expect Frank Lowy, notwithstanding his 80 years, to leap much higher than NSW Premier John Fahey did when Sydney won the Olympics in Monaco in 1993.

Citius, altius, fortius – faster, higher, stronger – may be the Olympic motto.

But the World Cup is simply big, bigger, biggest.

The 22-man jury deciding Australia’s 2022 World Cup fate allegedly includes a gangster and some who can be bought with money or women.

One has been reprimanded over shady dealings.

Two other members of world body FIFA’s executive committee won’t vote at all after being banned in a vote-buying scandal.

It is into this murky world that countries with cleanskin reputations like Australia have had to step to win the right to stage the biggest show in world sport.

Small wonder that even a businessman as formidable and experienced as Australian billionaire and FFA boss Frank Lowy has described the contest as one of the toughest of his life.

It was a remark Lowy made even before the London Sunday Times sting which led to bans on two members – Tahitian Reynald Temarii and Nigerian Amos Adamu – in an alleged vote-buying scandal.

There were further claims – later discounted by FIFA through lack of evidence – that Spain/Portugal’s 2018 bid and Qatar’s in 2022 had agreed to swap the support of a combined seven votes, four from one camp and three from the other.

Reporters posing as businessmen representing US interests also filmed former FIFA general secretary Michel Zen-Ruffinen apparently making himself available as a $330,000 fixer who could arrange approaches to officials to see what they wanted.

Zen-Ruffinen said two FIFA executive committee members could be bribed with money and a third with ladies.

He described a fourth as “the biggest gangster you will find on earth” and said he believed the minimum fee for this person would be $510,000.

FIFA’s all-powerful executive committee, it must be said, also includes some of the game’s greatest exemplars, including former playing giants like Franz Beckenbauer and Michel Platini.

The voting panel, reduced from 24 to 22 following the bans on Adamu and Temarii, now comprises nine Europeans, four Asians and three from each of Africa, South America and CONCACAF (central and North America).

Their average age is 63.

Australia is the only one of the nine bids not directly represented.

These are the men who will rule on Australia’s bid:-

President:

SEPP BLATTER, 74, Switzerland. Served 17 years as general secretary and CEO before succeeding Brazil’s Joao Havelange as the eighth FIFA President in 1998. His early reign was marked by the dismissal of his deputy Michel Zen-Ruffinen, who has surfaced in the latest allegations of vote-buying. Zen-Ruffinen had drawn up a dossier outlining allegations of financial mismanagement within FIFA, but Swiss authorities cleared Blatter of any wrongdoing.

Senior Vice President:

JULIO GRONDONA, 79, Argentina. Businessman, founder and president of Arsenal Futbol Club 1957-1976, President of Atltico Independiente from 1976-1981.

Vice Presidents:

ISSA HAYATOU, 64, Cameroon. Son of a local sultan and brother of a former prime minister. General Secretary and President of Cameroon’s FA. Stood unsuccessfully against Blatter for FIFA presidency in 2002.

DR CHUNG MONG-JOON, 59, South Korea. Prominent MP touted as potential president of his country. Also considering a challenge to Blatter for FIFA presidency next May. Controlling shareholder in Hyundai Heavy Industries, one of the largest corporations in the world.

JACK WARNER, 67, Trinidad and Tobago. Real estate developer, President of CONCACAF since 1990. Minister of Works and Transport, has served as Trinidad’s acting prime minister. In the 1980s and 1990s, Warner obtained FIFA’s television rights for the Caribbean for a low price and then controversially sold them on to broadcasters. He also on-sold tickets for Germany’s 2006 World Cup through a family travel business, but received only a rap over the knuckles from FIFA, which said: “He should be more prudent and cautious when it comes to ticketing and should also oversee the activities of his son a little more.”

ANGEL VILLAR LLONA, 60, Spain. President of Spanish federation, lawyer and former international player, winning 22 caps in the 1970s.

MICHEL PLATINI, 55, France. UEFA President and former French international star. Top goal scorer in French team that won the 1984 European championship. Played in the 1978, 1982 and 1986 World Cups. French coach for four years. Co-organiser of the 1998 World Cup in France.

GEOFF THOMPSON, 64, England. Former magistrate, FA chairman and a vice-president of both UEFA and FIFA. In May 2010 he replaced Lord Triesman as the head of England’s 2018 bid, after Triesman stepped down due to allegations in a newspaper sting of him accusing fellow World Cup 2018 hopefuls Russia and Spain of planning to bribe referees in the 2010 World Cup in South Africa.

Members:

Dr MICHEL D’HOOGHE, 64, Belgium. Honorary president Belgium FA, former president FC Bruges. Head of physical and sports medicine department at Bruges Hospital.

RICARDO TERRA TEIXEIRA, 63, Brazil. Brazilian association president at least until the end of the 2014 World Cup in Brazil, when he will complete 25 years in the office. Married Laaccia Havelange, daughter of former FIFA president Joao Havelange, divorcing after 30 years in 1997.

MOHAMED BIN HAMMAM, 61, Qatar. Managing Director of his own group of companies since 1976. Asian Confederation president since 2002, overseeing creation of the AFC Champions League and the acceptance of Australia into the AFC in 2006. Indicated a desire to challenge Blatter for FIFA presidency next year then withdrew.

SENES ERZIK, 68, Turkey. UEFA Vice-President, Honorary President Turkish FA. Economics graduate and executive of a pharmaceuticals company.

CHUCK BLAZER, 65, USA. General Secretary of CONCACAF. Former Commissioner of American Soccer League, corporate executive and marketing consultant.

WORAWI MAKUDI, 59, Thailand. General Secretary of Thai FA.

NICOLAS LEOZ, 82, Paraguay. Lawyer, sports journalist, part-time history professor, land owner, businessman, President of CONMEBOL since 1986.

JUJI OGURA, 72, Japan. General Manager Forukawa FC. Japan FA president and chairman of Japan 2022 bid committee.

MARIOS LEFKARITIS, 64, Cyprus. Entrepreneur, UEFA honorary Treasurer and Honorary President of Cyprus FA.

JACQUES ANOUMA, 58, Ivory Coast. President Ivorian FA since 2002. Financial manager for various multinational companies and the Ivorian administration.

FRANZ BECKENBAUER, 65, Germany. Nicknamed the “Kaiser”, the only man to captain and manage his country to World Cup wins (in 1974 and 1990). With Bayern Munich won three consecutive European Cups from 1974 to 1976. Led Germany’s successful bid to host the 2006 World Cup and chaired the organising committee.

RAFAEL SALGUERO, 63, Guatemala. Solicitor, former player in Guatemala, official of Guatemalan FA from 1976 to 1990.

HANY ABO RIDA, 57, Egypt. Engineer and businessman. Member of Organising Committee for U-20 World Cup 2010.

VITALY MUTKO, 51, Russia. Former President of Russian Football Union who signed Guus Hiddink as coach from Australia in 2006. Sports Minister since 2008. One of Vladimir Putin’s authorised representatives in his 2000 election campaign.
 

midfielder

Well-Known Member
This one is from Jimbo a regular Roar blogger .. so just a guy from the street..

The Roar being a online paper always has lots of comments and it is interesting to see even now many AFL folk still bagging out the bid..He also suggest that win or loose the fact that we have made such a good fist at the bid will get FIFA to help us develop football more...

http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/11/26/fifa%E2%80%99s-world-cup-financial-bonanza/

By jimbo -

26 November


World Cups will be a financial bonanza for all

Australia is really in with a great chance of hosting the World Cup in 2022, with most experts seeing it as a two way battle between Australia and the USA.

Most Australians are hoping for an FFA victory and the WC to be staged right here in our own great country, but we must be prepared to look at the possibility of not winning it. And if you look closely, the down side isn’t that bad really, especially for FIFA and the future of the game worldwide – which is still one of the sport’s major strengths – its global presence and worldwide appeal.

The 2022 WC will still be on – it just won’t be played here in Australia, so we still get to enjoy it wherever we are. And I for one am planning a big trip to the UK in 2018 if England get the nod – nothing wrong with that and who knows we might even end up in the US in 2022.

If the decisions for hosting FIFA 2018 and 2022 goes with the favoured nations, then FIFA is in for one almighty financial bonanza.

2014 is to be held in Brazil and if 2018 is in England and 2022 in the USA, these are the three countries that would generate the maximum interest in a WC and the greatest amount of revenue.

Football crazy South America and Brazil in particular, will put on one of the greatest World Cup parties ever staged. All games would be very well attended and interest in the tournament will be massive with the Jogo bonito boys set to do well with their brilliant entertaining brand of football.

And England too is a great footballing nation and the home of the game and the Football Association. Also being so close to the rest of Europe, England 2018 will be a great football tournament and a guaranteed financial success story.

And then 2022 in the US. USA 94 still holds the record for the most number of spectators – average and aggregate and is the largest revenue generator of all the WCs staged so far.

With the growth of the game in the last 16 years since then and the improved standing of the US national team and interest in the WC – the USA is set to smash their own records and generate billions of dollars in revenue for FIFA and the US Football associations.

If you had to sit down and pick the three countries to host the biggest and most successful world cups these would be the three that most would choose – Brazil, England and the USA.

If that were the case, FIFA stands to make an enormous financial bonanza with the next three WCs played in countries with huge numbers of football spectators generating an absolute fortune for FIFA.

With the recent vote rigging scandals highlighting the financial and resource restricted inequalities of poorer football federations like Oceania and Africa, it will lead to a lot of that FIFA booty being spent developing the game further and boosting the sport in less fortunate regions like Asia, Oceania and Africa.

FIFA will re-invest their profits and countries like Australia will benefit from more FIFA financial assistance and technical development. It will also lead to greater participation in FIFA technical improvements and sharing of financial and technical resources around the football world.

It will also lead to more favourable decisions about developing football facilities and academies all around the world and will benefit Australia enormously as well, especially youth development programs here and in Asia and the expansion of Asian and world youth tournaments and prize money.

If Australia is not granted the WC of 2022, it will also mean that the FFA and the federal government will not have to hand out hundreds of millions of dollars to its biggest sporting rivals in compensation, nor have to spend billions redeveloping AFL grounds for Andrew Demetriou.

But at the same time the FFA and Australian football will benefit from the enormous injection of funds in the global game and the improved product, interest and revenues it will generate all around the world.

Prize money for FIFA competitions will jump significantly as well.

Not to mention the growing number of junior football initiatives that will be launched by FIFA to attract even more youngsters to the game.

Sure it would be our wish to have the 2022 FIFA WC staged here, but the decision not going to Australia has some silver linings too, especially for FIFA and world football.
 

midfielder

Well-Known Member
From Tim Harcourt ...who I think works for the department of trade...

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/2010-world-cup/news/1033489/The-world-game-s-a-perfect-fit-for-world-trade

The world game's a perfect fit for world trade

26 November 2010-Tim Harcourt

Excitement builds ... Australia's is among the favourites to host the 2022 FIFA World Cup (AAP)
Australians were once worriers. And we had good reason to be. We had little to do with Asia and our living standards were slipping. People talked about the ‘tyranny of distance’ and how we had no hope because we were at the bottom of the world imprisoned by our geography.
The greatest show on earthGG gets behind Aussie bidBlatter hails Aussie 'no worries' bid
For those in the football community, things weren’t that great either.

For in football terms, Australia was a backwater. The late and great Socceroos captain Johnny Warren famously wrote about it in his book titled Sheilas, Wogs and Poofters and Australia’s first high profile football export, Craig Johnston allegedly said: “Playing soccer for Australia was like surfing for England,” although it was later found out that he had been unfairly misquoted.

On the road to the World Cup the Socceroos did it the hard way too, usually beating some poor Pacific island nation (who may have not even had running water) 20-0 before stumbling against the might of Uruguay, Argentina, Scotland or famously in 1997 (to much heartbreak) Iran.

But the times are a-changing on the pitch and in the boardrooms of corporate Australia too. The Australian economy is now enmeshed in Asia in terms of trade and investment. And just as trade and investment ties with Asia are strengthening so are our sporting ties thanks to the world game.

In fact, in a paper that I prepared for football diplomacy conference at the Lowy institute just after the Socceroos made the 2006 World Cup, I found that joining the Asian Football Confederation (AFC) was significant trade wise.

In the paper, comparing the top AFC nations versus the top FIFA nations the Asia accounted for $88 billion in export revenue compared to $19.5 billion for the top FIFA nations.

So in essence, by gaining admission in to the AFC, Football Federation of Australia (FFA) chairman Frank Lowy and his team not only gave football fans something to cheer about, but they have also given Australia a long run economic benefit in terms of trade.

And in terms of trade and football, Asia is clearly where the action is for Australia.

Of course the opportunity to qualify for the World Cup via Asia, as the Socceroos successfully did this year in South Africa, greatly helped Australia’s football prowess and our trade opportunities, as indeed being part of the Asia Cup which we get to host in 2015.

But this process will be greatly enhanced in a few days’ time if Australia is successful in its bid to host the FIFA World cup in 2022.

Watch the 2018 and 2022 FIFA World Cup host announcement LIVE from Zurich from 1.55am AEDT on Friday 3 December on SBS ONE and streamed online at www.sbs.com.au/theworldgame.

So how significant is the FIFA World Cup economically?
According to IBIS World’s Robert Bryant, the World Cup is a big deal.

“The World Cup and the Summer Olympics vie for the title of the biggest sports events on the planet; however when it comes to spending, football is the clear winner.

"IBIS World forecasts the 2022 World Cup in Australia would, in real terms, generate four times the spending of the Sydney 2000 Olympics."

Why is that so?

It’s partly because of the stadia upgrades needed for the 10 host cities and the travel between the cities by visiting fans. The Olympics is concentrated in one city whilst the World Cup is spread around the country with additional region benefits helping host cities like Geelong and Newcastle.

As well as bums on seats there are eyes on the TV screen as well. The World Cup dwarfs the Olympics in terms of TV viewers with 26.3 billion people watching Germany 2006 and 40 billion for South Africa 2010 compared to 4.7 billion for the Beijing Olympics in 2008 and 3.6 billion in Sydney 2000.

All in all, the World Cup will generate economic benefits in terms of broadcasting rights and an injection in to the local economy in terms of tourism, travel and logistics.

FFA CEO Ben Buckley, who is busily lobbying for 2022 cites the well-known PriceWaterhouseCoopers (PWC) study that anticipates a $5.3 billion boost in GDP and the generation of 74,000 full-time jobs from Australia hosting the Cup.

But the lasting benefits will be in the lead up to and the legacy, especially in terms of the opportunity it will bring in Asia.

According to PWC, Asia provides the biggest TV audience for the World Cup has the fastest growth rates in terms of viewing and corporately hosts 31 per cent of the world’s largest corporations by revenue.

Asia’s growing middle class and emerging consumer power is driving demand for ‘all things football’ so it is important that FIFA and Australia takes advantage of these trends.

According to Ben Buckley: “FIFA’s corporate partners will have access to the fasters growing economies in the world and the massive middle classes of China and India”, if it recommends Australia host the Cup given its strong trade ties to the region.

One thing allegedly going against Australia’s bid is TV rights and time zones versus USA (an argument often used in Olympic circles too).

But as PWC analysis shows Asia will be important in terms of TV viewers, sponsorship and overall business potential especially over the next 12 years as the focus of the global economy centres on Asia and the emerging economies after the northern woes of the global financial crisis (GFC).

So it may well be that in terms of sport as well as economics, Australia may well find itself in the right place at the right time as ‘the power of proximity’ replaces ‘the tyranny of distance’.

Let’s hope FIFA is thinking the same way when it makes its big announcement next week as football looks toward its future and Australia looks to its own future as opportunity beckons in Asia, on and off the field.
 

midfielder

Well-Known Member
Oceania is seeking to recover its vote..


Oceania seeks to recover vote

26 November 2010-AAP
The Oceania Football Confederation is seeking to win back its right to vote for the 2018 and 2022 World Cup hosts by asking its suspended president to waive his right to appeal a FIFA ethics ban.
The last-minute legal move requires Tahitian official Reynald Temarii to stand aside, even though a FIFA probe cleared him of corruption charges and he is suing the British Sunday Times newspaper for defamation.

One face-saving solution to be discussed at an OFC executive meeting on Saturday would allow Temarii to keep his presidency by delaying an election scheduled in 2011 until his one-year FIFA ban expires in October.

"All the latest developments will be discussed in the meeting," Oceania spokeswoman Priscilla Duncan told The Associated Press on Thursday.

Temarii did not reply to a request seeking comment.

However, his French-based lawyer Geraldine Lesieur said Temarii needed FIFA to provide a written explanation laying out the precise reasons for his suspension. FIFA's ethics committee said he breached "loyalty and confidentiality" rules.

"As long as the decision has not been explained, he is not renouncing anything," Lesieur told The AP in a telephone interview. "It's an impasse."

FIFA said it had no official information on a possible Oceania request to vote on December 2.

The OFC executive body will gather in Auckland, New Zealand, to explore all its options to send acting president David Chung to Zurich next week as the 23rd voting member of FIFA's ruling panel.

FIFA previously said Temarii cannot be replaced while he's appealing the suspension imposed following an ethics probe prompted by an undercover newspaper sting which alleged bribe-taking and vote-rigging in the World Cup bidding process.

FIFA said 43-year-old Temarii was sanctioned for breaching three principles in its ethics code relating to loyalty and confidentiality by speaking with reporters posing as lobbyists looking to buy votes.

Football protocol normally requires FIFA's six confederations to hold a full congress of member nations to choose its delegates to the world governing body.

However, Oceania believes it can install Chung as a FIFA voting member when its 11 countries are represented on Saturday. The meeting will also consider the case of executive member Ahongalu Fusimalohi from Tonga, who got a three-year FIFA ban.

"The suspensions that were handed down by the FIFA ethics committee will have implications on the OFC," Duncan said. "That is why we have arranged for this meeting to take place."

Oceania promoted Chung from his vice president role when Temarii was provisionally suspended by FIFA on Oct. 20.

The Papua New Guinean official said last week he was satisfied that FIFA found Temarii breached only "minor clauses" in the ethics code, and that Oceania would support his appeal.

If cleared to vote, Chung would likely be mandated to support Australia in the 2022 vote which includes the United States, Japan, South Korea and Qatar.

The Sunday Times reported that Temarii was backing the Spain-Portugal bid in the 2018 World Cup race against England, Russia and Belgium-Netherlands.

Spain-Portugal is assured of three votes from South America after its confederation, known as CONMEBOL, voted Wednesday to back the Iberian bid.

The 24th seat on FIFA's ruling panel will remain empty next week. The Confederation of African Football is not seeking to replace Nigerian official Amos Adamu, who was banned for three years. Adamu has said he will appeal to FIFA.
 

midfielder

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Support from the top .Federal Minister for Sport Mark Arbib declares it is his dream for Australia to host the 2022 FIFA World Cup


Note Vid link will only be up for a while..

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/video/356987/Arbib-on-Aussie-WC-bid
 

midfielder

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Football experts are tipping an Australian win..lets hope so... Great look at how voting systems and people work...

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/world-cup-bid/experts-tip-australia-to-leap-ahead-of-untied-states-qatar-and-win-the-right-to-host-the-2022-world-cup/story-fn3g9e47-1225961832231

Experts tip Australia to leap ahead of Untied States, Qatar, and win the right to host the 2022 World Cup

Football experts are tipping Australia to upset the United States and Qatar, and win the right to host the 2022 FIFA World Cup.

Sydney shocked the world when it was awarded the 2000 Olympics and now Australia is on the brink of another coup by winning the right to host the World Cup finals in 2022.

According to a detailed analysis of the likely voting patterns provided to The Weekend Australian by several experts well versed in the political machinations of the sport's ruling body, FIFA, Australia will upset the United States and Qatar to claim the prize.

Despite being a decided underdog, the analysts are adamant FIFA boss Sepp Blatter will declare Australia the 2022 host - a decision worth possibly $6 billion to the Australian economy.

However, Australia - which has poured $45.6 million into their World Cup bid - has to negotiate a voting minefield that is FIFA's 22-man executive committee. The largely anonymous group of men will meet in Zurich on December 3 (EDT) to vote on the hosts for 2018 and 2022.

In what have been highly intriguing and controversial contests, England, Portugal-Spain, Russia and Belgium-Holland are fighting it out for 2018 while Australia is in a five-way battle that also involves pre-vote favourite Qatar, the United States, Japan and South Korea.

As is so often the case in the explosive and continually shifting world of FIFA politics, nothing is ever straightforward.

The bidding contests have already been shrouded in mystery and high drama over allegations of vote-buying and collusion as revealed by a London Sunday Times sting that ended with executive committee members Reynald Temarii and Amos Adamu being suspended for one year and three years respectively.

That has reduced the executive committee voting numbers from 24 to 22, which means the winning bid will need a clear majority of 12 votes.

The voting process could take as few as one round or as many as five or six. A winner will be declared if it receives 12 or more votes. If that doesn't happen in the first round, the country with the lowest vote in each round is eliminated.

The strategy has been likened to Steven Bradbury's last-to-first gold medal win in the speed skating final at the 2002 Winter Olympics, when the entire field fell in front of him and he skated past the winning post on his own.

"The key, obviously, is to survive the first round," one expert said.

"I don't think it will have too much trouble getting past the early stages.

"I see South Korea then Japan falling in the first two rounds, leaving it pretty much to the three countries most people expect to fight it out - Australia, Qatar and the US.

"The thing is, the Australian bid team has been doing its work well. It has been a great strategy to target the second votes."

He believes Australia will fight it out with the US in the final round and will triumph 14 votes to 8, while the second expert predicts Australia will fall just short with 10 votes in the third round before picking up another three in the last round to beat the US 13-9.
 

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Im just spitballing here but would the Jets win the match against LA Galaxy have any postive or negative affect on the bid?
 

midfielder

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here we go here we go... heaps today ... all sorts of stuff ... will start with a rather soft David Becks and finish with Frank..we have stuff from News, SMH, The Roar ...

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/beckham-gets-behind-aussie-bid/story-fn6e0tx4-1225962002758

Beckham gets behind Aussie bid


DAVID Beckham has joined the chorus of big names backing Australia's bid to host the 2022 World Cup bid.

Former German captain Franz Beckenbauer, who is part of the FIFA executive committee, praised Frank Lowy and his team for an "excellent" campaign.

The decision on who will host the 2018 and 2022 World Cups will be handed down on Friday morning.

Beckham, who played for the LA Galaxy against Newcastle last night, declared that Australia was primed to host the 2022 tournament.

"I do [think Australia would be a good host]," Beckham said in an interview with Fox Sports.

"Because I think any country that is passionate about sport and passionate about hosting a big competition ... can without doubt host a competition like the World Cup.

"But I also think that the US going for it as well, I think they are more than equipped to host a big competition like that................ more on link
 

midfielder

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From Robbie Slatter... he reminds us of the size of the WC...

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/its-bigger-than-the-2000-olympics/story-fn6e0tx4-1225962005804

ND the winner is ... The next word will be the most important in our sporting history.

Forget November 16, 2005, and John Aloisi's penalty against Uruguay, the biggest day for Aussie football arrives in the early hours of Friday morning (Australian time), when FIFA president Sepp Blatter announces who will host the 2022 World Cup.

If Blatter says Australia, this will be bigger than the 2000 Olympics.

It will also be a victory for anyone who has shed blood, sweat and tears for the Socceroos shirt. It will be a victory for anyone who has been to an A-League game, supported the old NSL. Mostly, it will be a victory for the vision and determination of Frank Lowy.

Six years ago we didn't even have a national competition. The game here has been rebuilt from the ground up, and now we are five days away from knowing if the world's biggest sporting event is coming to our shores.


It's a weird feeling as the clock ticks down to Thursday, just the sense of anticipation. I will be in the Fox Sports news room from midnight on Thursday until 3am just waiting for the announcement.

The Uruguay game, which took us to the World Cup finals for the first time in 32 years, was obviously massive. But this will be huge for the country as well.

On a football level, you only have to look at the US - who, along with Qatar, are our major rival in the bidding process - to see what this could mean.

The Americans had a patchy football history, the zenith being the New York Cosmos in the 1970s, when Pele was their shiny hood ornament. But the wheels fell off and the competition folded.

In 1994, the US hosted what was then the most successful World Cup in history in terms of television viewers and sponsorship. On the back of that, they launched a national competition two years later that now holds its own, with superstars such as David Beckham and Thierry Henry the star attractions.

The American Stars and Stripes make it to every World Cup and are competitive with a team made up mostly of local-based players.

That has to be the goal for Australian football. Every kid from the age of eight up to 20 will have the carrot of playing in a World Cup at home. It doesn't get more exciting.

Imagine how young guns such as Tommy Oar and Mathew Leckie will be feeling. Come 2022, they should be at the peak of their careers and hopefully looking at playing in the world's biggest sporting event in front of their family and friends.

FIFA should do everything in its power to help us get there. It talks about developing the game around the globe, well our little corner Down Under is really the final frontier. This is simply too good an opportunity to let slip.

When you look at modern sport, it always seems to be in terms of kicking goals in the marketplace, of winning the bottom line. The 2022 World Cup would give Australian football 12 years of build-up, 12 years of winning sponsors and building a solid foundation.

Worldwide, 700 million television viewers tuned in for the Spain-The Netherlands final in South Africa this year. That shows how big this is.

There is only upside to bringing the World Cup to Australia. Asia has a massive population, the game is growing in our region at an extraordinary rate and it's only going to be bigger by 2022.

I'm a realist. I know soccer will never be the No 1 sport in Australia. It doesn't need to be. The AFL and NRL have more than 100 years of history behind them. People love those competitions, and so they should.

But this decision would give football the chance to compete on a level playing field. No one should look at this as a battle to be No 1 anyway. That's such an immature view.

I'm a Sydney boy and follow the NRL more than the AFL, but I appreciate what those sports have to offer. Cricket and the Wallabies are both great, too. Having so many sports makes Australia unique; it should be a strength in the bidding process, not a weakness.

Again, the US is a perfect example. Baseball, the NFL, basketball and ice hockey still have their place at the top of their sporting tree, but the World Cup put football back in the national psyche, and it has grown ever since.

I have friends in England and France who always talk to me about the AFL and this crazy game you Aussies play. They always say how tough it is. Footballers overseas are genuinely envious of our different codes.

It's the same with Aussie sports fans. Who wouldn't want to see Brazil, Italy, Argentina and even our own Socceroos playing a World Cup here? Everyone will be swept up by the euphoria, you can bet on it.

When we hosted the Olympics, people flocked to see weightlifting, archery, trampolining - it was all about the occasion and the history. That's what we are aiming for again. Nothing unites like football.

The success of this year's World Cup in South Africa wasn't only Spain breaking through after all these years, not even New Zealand's fairytale run. It was off the pitch as well, a point noted by tournament organiser Danny Jordaan.

"Just 20 years ago we were a society entrenched on a racial basis by law," Jordaan said after the final. "Black and white could never sit together in stadiums, go to the same school, or play in the same football team. Within 20 years, we saw white supporters having their faces painted in the Ghana colours, supporting young Africans.

"That's something this World Cup has brought: nation building and social cohesion. People walked tall."

Australians have experienced this sense of pride with the Olympics. Now we could be five days away from something even bigger.
 

midfielder

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A Roar blogger like Robbie talks about the size of the WC..

http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/11/28/bigger-than-ben-hur/

World Cup is bigger than Ben Hur


Marko Todoroski

World Cup is bigger than Ben Hur
A few months ago, Australia had a weekend which featured the grand finals of the AFL and the NRL as well as the Commonwealth Games getting underway. Fans around the country were salivating at the thought of so much sport.

Commentators were making sure everybody knew how big the weekend was going to be. It was going to be massive, the likes of which would not be seen for a long time.

Sure it was big, but I’ve seen bigger.

When it comes to all things sport, size does matter. The size of the crowd. The slice of the sponsorship pie which a sport attracts. The viewing audience.

The scale of a World Cup is only challenged by the Olympics in terms of magnitude, but it is felt across the host country rather than just the host city. Hosting a World Cup will be the only way for all Australians to comprehend the global scale of the world game.

By this time next week, Australia will know if it has been successful in its bid to host the 2022 World Cup. I thought it would be an opportune time to discuss what getting the World Cup will be like.

From my perspective the most important issue is whether hosting a World Cup will be beneficial for Australian football. I think the answer has to be yes. In Australia’s case it’s an example of Muhammad going to the mountain.
Whilst Australians are a sporting loving people, they are also fiercely loyal to their preferred sport of choice. They are open to trying new things (remember the fuss about trampolining at the Sydney Olympics?), but its often a fleeting interest at best and they return to ol’ faithful whether it be league, AFL, the V8s or cricket.

Football in Australia is still seen as that foreign game and I understand why. Our best players go overseas. The top leagues are found in Europe. There is still an element in the community that thinks it’s a game, as the late great Johnny Warren put it, for sheilas, wogs and poofters.

I’m not sure why this section of the population feels threatened by football’s expansion. It’s going to be a long time before football even considers moving from being a summer game to a winter one in direct competition with the other major codes.

It is not my hope that lifelong supporters of other sports suddenly see the light and adopt football as the one and only true code as a result of hosting a World Cup. There is room for all the codes (despite the media’s efforts to portray it as a battle to the death), and hosting a World Cup is part of the process of football’s expansion.

Hosting a World Cup is the only way to show the majority of the country what football is really about. It hard to put into words what hosting a World Cup feels like and saying ‘trust me, you’ll see’ isn’t enough to convince a sometimes skeptical public and media.

So what can I do?

Below is a video I took at the Durban Fan Fest during the World Cup. This moment captures the crowd’s reaction during a South African game.

So what’s so special about this? Any sport can generate this type of reaction, right?

Well, just imagine this moment happening around Australia a few times a day, every day for six weeks. And then imagine these same moments broadcast around the world being watched by billions of people.

And that’s only the tip of the iceberg.
 

midfielder

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Wpu;d be great fun... HHHHHHHMMMMMM not sure of this article...

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/dont-expect-the-olympics-but-staging-the-world-cup-would-be-great-fun-20101126-18amc.html

Don't expect the Olympics but staging the World Cup would be great fun



John Huxley

November 27, 2010


BY THIS time next week we will know whether Australia has been successful in its ambitious $50 million bid to stage the football World Cup finals in 2022. But what would it mean to win? How would it feel to stage it?

Ben Buckley, the chief executive of Football Federation Australia, says: ''A World Cup in Australia is great for the country, great for the region and great for FIFA [soccer's governing body].

''Everyone wins if we are chosen.'' He may be right.

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Robert Bryant, the general manager of business analysis group IBISWorld, says the event could pump $35.56 billion into the economy. It sounds exorbitant but he may be right.

Cathy Freeman, who ran the race of our lives to win the 400 metres in the Sydney Olympics, says the World Cup would ''unite Australia … showcase to the world the very best of who we are''. She is undoubtedly right. Safe, secure, sports mad, Australia would do a fine job.

But one thing is certain: the World Cup will be a very different experience from the 2000 Olympics, which many international experts say proved that a remote, sparsely populated nation could successfully stage big events.

It will be less multinational. The Olympics featured athletes from 199 countries; the 2022 World Cup will be contested by only 32, though more than 200 will compete to qualify for the finals and fans from many more countries can be expected for the month-long festival.

It will be vastly more far spread out. The Olympics are awarded to a city, the World Cup finals to a country, or even countries.

Although the early football rounds at the Olympics were played outside the host city - in Canberra, Adelaide, Melbourne and Brisbane - the 2000 Games were awarded, staged, embraced and enjoyed as a uniquely Sydney event.

Instead of two weeks of concentrated competition in a smorgasbord of sports, as they did in 2000, in the World Cup Sydneysiders would be confined locally to set-piece football matches over five weeks - if they can afford the tickets. The finals would be played at 12 venues - Sydney Football Stadium, the Olympic stadium, Blacktown, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth, Adelaide, Gold Coast, Newcastle, Canberra, Geelong and Townsville.

One view of this scenario is that the 2022 World Cup will share the joy across Australia. Another is that teams, fans, officials will be faced with a big, logistical challenge.

Either way, for Sydneysiders, the feel-good factor will be more far flung.

Little wonder IBISWorld predicts that transport operators, airlines, bus companies, taxis and car rental companies will be among the big beneficiaries of World Cup spending.

And, would the 2022 World Cup unite the country, promote its natural beauty, lifestyle and achievements, prove Australia's ''world-class'' credentials, and give football another boost? Probably. But is the country that disunited? Is the world unaware of Australia's myriad attractions? Do we still need to put ourselves to further cost and potential inconvenience to prove ourselves on the world stage?

None of that should detract from our excitement, our pride, should we win. We should want to win, be glad we have won, because they would be fun. And full of wonderful football.

John Huxley has covered four World Cup finals and seven Olympic Games.
 

midfielder

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Reasonable article about the process coming to an end...

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/fishing-time-over-as-cup-bids-enter-final-stretch-20101126-18ama.html

Fishing time over as Cup bids enter final stretch


November 27, 2010

As the World Cup bidding process reaches endgame, there's little left to pick up on the campaign trail, writes Dan Silkstone.

They were just five words, and appropriately surreal ones given the nature of the contest, but Miguel Angel Lopez, chief executive of the Spain-Portugal bid for the 2018 World Cup summed up the issue at hand with a declaration this week worthy of countryman Salvador Dali.


Lopez meant, of course, the vast majority of votes for the 2018 and 2022 tournaments are already sewn up. He must surely hope so. Others hope something different as they converge on Zurich in coming days.

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Lobbying hard ... Frank Lowy. Photo: AP
The best bid is one thing. Australia can be proud in what it has assembled, a technically excellent proposal that managed to overcome stadium availability tussles and score the highest rating and most glowing recommendation from FIFA's technical inspectors. No risk, strong hosting pedigree, all the boxes ticked. It has mounted a compelling and simple case: take the World Cup to the only continent that has never hosted it. A safe, experienced host in football's fastest growing region.

Will it matter? Only a little. The spectacle seen in coming days will most likely matter even less. Celebrities and political heavyweights will descend on Zurich. Elle Macpherson and Quentin Bryce for a slightly outgunned Australia. Bill Clinton and Spike Lee for the Americans. Prince William, David Cameron and David Beckham for England's 2018 bid. Zinedine Zidane for Qatar, Cristiano Ronaldo for Spain-Portugal.

In truth - although reneging and backstabbing remain possible - most of the last-minute lobbying has been done this week. In Brazil, South Korean bid leaders pressed their case to South American delegates while FIFA president Sepp Blatter also hit South America, trying to sway those same votes away from Qatar. In Kuala Lumpur, FFA chairman Frank Lowy and chief executive Ben Buckley cosied up to the four Asian voters on the executive committee - all of whom will back other bids in the first round of voting.

Trying to pick a winner is difficult. Insiders say the 2022 race is almost certainly the most dynamic ever. Four decent challengers but all with a significant weakness make it so.

South Korea shapes as utterly crucial. Australia dares to hope, maybe even to expect, that the influential Koreans have mustered few votes - maybe as few as two or three - and will be eliminated second, after Japan. If Lowy and co. are wrong, Australia is gone. Political events this week can not have helped South Korea, although Hyundai's re-signing on Wednesday as a major World Cup sponsor until 2022 was no accident either.

If Lowy and Buckley are right, plenty of hope remains. The Herald believes a gentleman's agreement was almost certainly hatched in Kuala Lumpur this week that Asia's four votes would unite behind whichever candidate survives longest. South Korea's powerbroker Chung Mong-Joon is no great friend of AFC president Mohammed Bin Hammam, a Qatari. If his votes and those of Japan can be corralled, Australia could sneak past Qatar and into a winnable last round against the US. Bin Hammam should then come on board.

Buckley and Lowy have spent days lobbying in the Malaysian capital - as has English bid leader Geoff Thompson. All are saying nothing. Australia is relatively powerless within FIFA and is lying low, working hard below the surface with soft diplomacy and hoping that it can be a consensus, even fallback, option. Rest assured, though, spirits are high. ''It is going to be extremely close,'' Sports Minister Mark Arbib said yesterday. ''There is a real possibility we will get the World Cup in 2022.''

Australia has the look of a team that believes it is on the verge of a breakthrough. Just what it is, and how significant it proves, remains unknown. All must go to plan, and the European voters who have suggested they might lend support must deliver. There is even hopeful chatter that a single African vote might be up for grabbing - a possibility that is disputed elsewhere. One source told the Herald all four African delegates had agreed to support Qatar. In truth, nobody knows.

The feeling remains that Qatar has mustered a formidable bloc of votes that will push it through the early rounds. Australia hopes it is not enough to get the tiny emirate to the final two. A showdown with the US bid is an enticing notion for Australia, which would hope to pick up votes from Asia and Africa if Qatar and Korea were eliminated. Not always popular in its new confederation, Australia has been working hard to win friends. Note the scooping of the pool at the confederation's awards night this week where Australia won the AFC's ''Dream Asia'' philanthropy award for donating $5 million to ''less privileged'' Asian national associations.

If American support softens early, though, and the US bid is surprisingly eliminated, Australia would struggle in a vote against Qatar or South Korea.

Bin Hammam said yesterday he and his allies would vote for Spain-Portugal in 2018 and the favour would be returned for 2022. It came just hours after the four South American voters said they would back Spain-Portugal. ''This does not mean that there is a pact,'' Bin Hammam said. FIFA evidently agrees.

Luckily, there appear to be just as many, maybe more, voters determined that Qatar should not win. That it should not parlay, via dubious means, a voting bloc of three into a World Cup that would be unlike any other ever staged. Searing temperatures are one thing but the bid would essentially be a complete revising of what a World Cup is. In a single city, with a population of 1.6 million - the majority of whom are poor and sometimes poorly treated migrant workers. It would be more like an Olympics. Indeed, the emirate tried to bid for that event in 2016. The IOC threw its bid out as unfeasible.

There are not enough hotels, or stadiums, but there is oil and money and an inverted Hollywood maxim: ''If you come, we will build it.'' In the desert they will erect 10 stadiums, then disassemble them and send them off as gifts to Third World countries. In Africa. Votes please.

So as the football world trickles into Zurich, the question most are asking is: ''Are the fish all sold?'' Will the blocs hold or will the anonymity of hotel bars and the voting room allow some to reassess promises?

Could there still be room for surprises? England has been in a loose alliance with the US but will that hold if the English believe the Americans have been outmanoeuvred by Qatar and have missed out on too many of the votes needed to win?

In such circumstances, how would they entertain entreaties from a colonial brother with a handful of possible first-round votes? It has been speculated that if Oceania's interim president David Chung is allowed to participate, he will back England. In exchange for what? England has been a notable presence in Kuala Lumpur the past few days. Who knows what talks could happen in such a time and place?

THE COUNTDOWN
DECEMBER 1
Australia will give its presentation at 2pm Zurich time (midnight Sydney time), followed by South Korea, Qatar, the US and Japan.

DECEMBER 2
Belgium-Netherlands will give their presentation at 7pm Sydney time, followed by Spain-Portugal, England and Russia at 10pm Sydney time.

All presentations will be broadcast on FIFA.com.

The 2018 vote will take place first, then the 2022 one. The vote will be by secret ballot.

The winner will be announced at 2am (Friday) Sydney time.

To win the right to host the competition, a bidder must obtain an absolute majority (50 per cent + 1) of the votes of the FIFA Executive Committee members present.

In the event of a tie when only two bidders remain, FIFA president Sepp Blatter will have the casting vote.

For any voting round in which an absolute majority is not achieved, the bidder with the lowest number of votes will not progress to the next voting round.

If there is a tie for the lowest number of votes in any round, an intermediate voting round will be conducted to determine which of the tied bidders does not progress.

When the final decision on the host has been taken, the result will be put in two envelopes and taken by the notary to the Messe Zurich, where they will be handed to the FIFA president for the announcements at 2am (Friday) Sydney time.
 

midfielder

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New era articles


http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/new-football-age-if-we-get-worlds-largest-sports-event-20101127-18bd0.html

New football age if we get world's largest sports event


Alex Tobin
November 28, 2010
There will be lots of fingers and toes crossed in the Tobin household in the early hours of Friday morning. I'll be watching the World Cup announcement with my boys Aidan, 10 and Kielan, 14. I would love to see the looks on their faces if we get it. Like every young football fan, they dream of playing in a World Cup. Imagine doing it in your own country!

This would certainly be the biggest sporting moment we have ever experienced. Like the Sydney Olympics, it would be hard to quantify just how big this would be to Australia. You could try to calculate the benefits in building infrastructure or tourism dollars but you would fall way short. It's a monumental decision. The growth of football in Australia is on a very steep curve - a World Cup would make it even steeper.

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Our chances are very good, but you can't say that we're over the line. Who could have predicted that Sydney would have gotten over the line for the Olympics all those years ago? Apart from having terrific infrastructure, Australia would be seen as a very good destination for people to come and visit. It's an area that's never been touched on and hopefully that will give us an edge over the United States. They've had it - we haven't.

FIFA politics are very complicated and I can throw out all these reasons why Australia should get it, but that's not going to sway anybody. In the football landscape, we're perceived as a country which punches above its weight. Some people in FIFA may see us as one of the last areas where football doesn't dominate the continent like everywhere else in the world. For that reason we could be viewed as a new frontier.

Given that 2014 is in South America and 2018 is likely to be in Europe, that's two superpowers represented in consecutive Cups. Those boxes have been ticked. So hopefully the next one goes to what may be perceived as a non-traditional nation.

Hopefully the FFA has made the right decisions in terms of how our bid has been put forward because this is huge. I can't describe how big the event would be for Australian sport, let alone what it might mean for Australian football moving forward.

I'm expecting to be very emotional, nervous and tense on Friday morning. My greatest passion is for the game to reach the heights that it can. Hosting the World Cup would put us in the spotlight and raise the bar for football in this country.

Facilities would be improved, funding would come into the game in a much different way. The number of kids playing the game has never been an issue - there are other things we need to build upon and the World Cup would provide such a shot in the arm. The benefits would be exponential.

We'll be up late on Thursday night. Hopefully we all wake up to an exciting new dawn.

Talking up the Cup: football's big names rally to the cause
JOHN KOSMINA

"It shows incredible foresight, courage and ambition to bid for the 2022 FIFA World Cup. If successful, and I hope we are, it will change the sporting landscape in Australia.''

PAUL WADE

"If we are successful in our bid to host the 2022 FIFA World Cup, it's amazing to think that with the announcement of one word - 'Australia' - millions of lives will be changed forever. Our bid reflects a nation that is safe, secure, welcoming and multicultural. The legacy of this event will be felt by the whole region.''

CRAIG MOORE

"To get the 2022 FIFA World Cup would mean that we have finally made it on the world stage. Having qualified for the past two FIFA World Cups, I think that Australians now know how amazing this event truly is. We are in a very strong position to host a fantastic sporting event. For me it was always a dream to represent my country and to be able to do that in the past two FIFA World Cups are memories that I will keep for the rest of my life.''

PAUL OKON

''After we qualified for the 2006 FIFA World Cup, we put Australia on the world football map. Being granted the chance to host the 2022 FIFA World Cup will help confirm our status as a true football nation.''
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midfielder

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Codes Unite ..HHHHMMMMMMMMMMM eeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrr OK OK OK I accept


http://www.smh.com.au/sport/football/codes-unite-to-support-world-cup-bid-20101127-18bcz.html


Codes unite to support World Cup bid
Josh Rakic
November 28, 2010

N ONE week The Sun-Herald has been able to achieve what the country's sports administrators have struggled to do in six months - elicit a show of solidarity from the country's three biggest football codes in support of Australia's 2022 World Cup bid.

Tension between the NRL, AFL and football has been simmering throughout Australia's World Cup bid campaign, particularly the AFL's hard-line stance on stadium availability. Only last week FIFA noted the fact ''that the NRL rugby league season and the AFL Australian rules football seasons take place in Australia during the period from March to September [and] could have an impact on the availability of resources and the public attention given to the World Cup.''

But three stars contacted by The Sun-Herald were happy to don Socceroos guernseys and throw their weight behind the bid, which is locked in a battle with the US, Qatar, South Korea and Japan. FIFA is set to announce its decision on Friday morning, Sydney time.

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''Regardless of what sport you play or follow, the World Cup is a country event. It's for everyone to enjoy and experience,'' said league star Mitchell Pearce. ''Everyone tends to get behind it and it gets everyone pretty patriotic. I think that for the past two World Cups everyone has been behind the Socceroos and I think that would be that much bigger if the World Cup was out here. It would be massive.

''The Olympics here were huge and we seemed to do that pretty well. We've got the facilities and everything already. The World Cup has never been out here and I just think it would be a massive success. It'd be sweet for any sports fan or atmosphere for just people in general.''

Swans AFL star Jarrad McVeigh, whose father grew up on a diet of nothing but football in the UK, didn't pull any punches either. Despite the AFL's ambivalence towards the bid, McVeigh refused to toe the company line and welcomed the opportunity for Australia to host the biggest event in the world, sporting or otherwise.

''It'd be something to see,'' McVeigh said. ''I'd definitely love to see it here. It would be unbelievable to have it in Australia.

''We have great stadiums and a lot of fans coming from all over the world. My dad is from Liverpool in England so I support them. I'm from the Central Coast, too, so I take a bit of interest in the Mariners. But I love the Premier League. The World Cup is going to be as big as the Olympics with a lot of fans and the best players in the world. Even if you're not a soccer fan, people get behind the World Cup. And seeing those players play would be one of the best experiences anyone can get. I haven't been to one, but I've always wanted to. I definitely always have late nights when the World Cup is on.''

Wallabies breakaway and Waratahs captain Phil Waugh has thrown his support behind the bid, too, saying stadium availability squabbles shouldn't be taken into consideration by FIFA.

''There has been a little bit of controversy over the release of grounds, but I think the more people you have in the country supporting sport it doesn't matter what code you're in. It's about people enjoying Australia,'' Waugh said. ''I definitely think we need the World Cup. I don't think I got a wink of sleep during the last World Cup in South Africa.

''And following the Olympics in 2000 and the Rugby World Cup in 2003, Australia has really shown the world how we can hold big events and do it well. Not just the games, but the culture of the country. It'll be terrific for anybody coming over here and the players would enjoy it, too. It doesn't matter what sport you play or follow, a World Cup in almost every sport gets people who aren't necessarily interested in that sport to get behind it.''
 

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Very funny well at least I thinks it funny article by Richard Hinds...

Some of the following lines just cracked me up..

" The look on Andrew Demetriou's face when he holds a press conference announcing how ''genuinely delighted''

" Emergency services will not be required to talk Craig Foster down from an 28th-storey ledge"

Enjoy

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/australia-the-host-with-the-most-20101126-18amt.html

Australia, the host with the most
Richard Hinds
November 27, 2010

FORGET about how it would provide a ''stimulus for the game in Australia''. Forget about increasing our ''global profile'' or forging new trade links with Burkina Faso. Forget about the smile - OK then, barely perceptible grin - it would bring to the face of the laudably stoic Les Murray.

Here are some more important reasons it would be great if Australia won the right to host the 2022 World Cup.

It would mean the US doesn't get to host it, thus averting the possibility of World Cup coverage that includes dumbed-down commentary intended for a uneducated and mostly uninterested audience. And do we really want the World Cup in a country whose FIFA delegate is called Chuck Blazer?

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Australia happens to be in Australia's time zone, meaning we would not have to pop NoDoz or drink a seventh long black to get through the second half of North Korea v Paraguay.

The look on Andrew Demetriou's face when he holds a press conference announcing how ''genuinely delighted'' the AFL is that the World Cup will be played in Australia smack bang in the middle of his season.

Emergency services will not be required to talk Craig Foster down from an 28th-storey ledge.

June 26, 2022: Brazil v France or Parramatta v Warriors. Decisions, decisions.

Australia's automatic qualification would mean four years without the tedious Club v Country debate.

The Socceroos would become such a hot commodity, their lead-up games might even be shown on free-to-air television (or free-to-air app or free-to-air molecular mind transferral device or whatever the 2022 equivalent of television might be).

Harry Kewell will have finally retired, meaning a home World Cup without the usual pre-tournament will-he-or-won't-he fitness test drama.

At current rate of progress, the 2022 World Cup will coincide with the formation of the new NRL independent commission, thus giving rugby league time to prepare its strategic response - a few weeks after the World Cup has finished.

With the World Cup attracting enormous interest in the game and the bandwagon jumpers climbing aboard, the A-League spruikers will no longer be able to moan the game - and thus the league's attendances - suffers because it is ignored or ridiculed by the mainstream media.

The World Cup will be held during a period when Wimbledon usually gets a good run in the local press, and thus camouflage the fact that, in 2022, Australia's only representation at the All England Club will be a pair of Belarusian immigrants in the junior girls' doubles.

A mandatory three-year minimum sentence would be introduced for those who call the game ''soccer'', thus ensuring people like me - who want to be understood by friends who think ''football'' is a piddling native game played by small-minded parochialists - are given the harsh treatment we so clearly deserve.

Julia Gillard (or Tony Abbott?) will feature in hundreds of photo opportunities knocking the ball around the lawn at The Lodge. But neither could look more awkward than Kevin Rudd.

Qatar in June is a great place for a barbecue - although only if you are happy to play the role of marinated chicken skewer.

As anointed World Cup hosts, Australians can do what the English do in the case of an Ashes defeat: pretend nobody here cares about cricket, and that soccer (they haven't made the word illegal yet!) is far more important to us.

David Beckham playing a kick-about in Newcastle? Or Argentina and Italy going at it with a World Cup finals berth on the line?

A six-week unofficial public holiday during which building workers and public servants suddenly discover their deep appreciation of the four-four-two formation.

If the worst fears about global warming and the polar ice caps are proved, we will at the very least have first-class facilities to host the 2022 water polo world cup.

Australia's victory would be a slap in the face for corruption - and a justified reward for our hard-working and fair-minded foreign lobbyists as well as a vindication of the tasteful and all-above-board gifts given to visiting FIFA officials.

Andy Harper won't lose any more hair worrying about it.

It will leave a legacy of great stadiums, some of which might even be occasionally available for soccer.

With FIFA insisting on ultimate authority, anyone caught selling an unlicensed replica T-shirt or looking sideways at Sepp Blatter will be shot at dawn, the game's governing body finally providing the crackdown on law and order this country so desperately needs.

Travelling by suburban train to watch Germany v Spain? Sounds good to me.
 

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