An update from our Chairman

[VonBowellski]

For all members, a new email from Rich should be in your inboxes. For those non members, sign up to receive these.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Begging letter 2.0.
Goes to members, we already give money.

 

[BaysideMariner]

So if we cannot break even after the last two seasons should we just fold the club?

But seriously hopefully the front office team can leverage off the last two seasons. If the grant from the APL.is dropping , does that mean so too does the salary floor? I.e if I want to pay every player the minimum we can ? ( not suggesting we should)

 

[pjennings]

So if we cannot break even after the last two seasons should we just fold the club?

But seriously hopefully the front office team can leverage off the last two seasons. If the grant from the APL.is dropping , does that mean so too does the salary floor? I.e if I want to pay every player the minimum we can ? ( not suggesting we should)

In fairness to RP. We would still be losing money on most match days - especially on the stand alone womens' games and the AFC Cup games. The AFC Cup money that the club received (after half going to the players - who deserved it!!) would not have covered the costs of being in the competition and now they are losing $1m compared to last year from the APL.

When he took over we did not have a womens team. Those losses would not have originally be planned for - however he made the decision to play them at the Stadium.

If we can put together a decent first team again an ALM average of 10,000 is possible, 12,000 less so. To do it every game given the vagaries of our weather I think is impossible even for the men.

 

[Ironbark]

In fairness he said we did better financially this year than lthe year before but now we'll be down $1mil due to the APL screwing up.
All he asks is for members to encourage fair weather supporters who turned up for and enjoyed the GF to sign up and come to more games where possible

 

[BaysideMariner]

In fairness to RP. We would still be losing money on most match days - especially on the stand alone womens' games and the AFC Cup games. The AFC Cup money that the club received (after half going to the players - who deserved it!!) would not have covered the costs of being in the competition and now they are losing $1m compared to last year from the APL.

When he took over we did not have a womens team. Those losses would not have originally be planned for - however he made the decision to play them at the Stadium.

If we can put together a decent first team again an ALM average of 10,000 is possible, 12,000 less so. To do it every game given the vagaries of our weather I think is impossible even for the men.

I love what Rich has done. I am confused as to who would want to own an A League club? What are the thoughts around being an owner. As a passionate Mariners supporter, at what point financially would it be OK to buy them?. It would have to be around my passion for the club vs financial benefit. I want Rich to stay but if he continues to lose money at what point do we lose him and get no one?

 

[pjennings]

Regardless of how we’re performing, we need to work together to get 12,000+ fans at every home game this season – our men and women on the pitch deserve the support. - RP

To look at the size of the task he is looking for 12,000 each game - this is what we would need to do to average (not beat every game) 10,000 and 12,000. As an FYI we had 1 game greater than 12,000 last season NYE at 15,073.

	ALM	ALW	AFC	All
This season	7250	2901	2776	4761
Increase needed	37.93%	244.70%	260.22%	110.05%
Next season average	10000	10000	10000	10000
	ALM	ALW	AFC	All
This season	7250	2901	2776	4761
Increase needed	65.52%	313.64%	332.28%	152.05%
Next season average	12000	12000	12000	12000

 

[VonBowellski]

Well the good thing is we have the $1.2mil from Afc Elite to help offset the APL shitting the bed

 

[pjennings]

Well the good thing is we have the $1.2mil from Afc Elite to help offset the APL shitting the bed

That will only offset last season's AFC costs

 

[FFC Mariner]

I thought bigging up the airtasker CEO was tasteless.

 

[shipwreck]

At what point do they consider playing the Women's games at a smaller and less expensive ground?

 

[Meerkat]

At what point do they consider playing the Women's games at a smaller and less expensive ground?

I think the whole idea was for them to be equal and of the same importance as the men’s team.

 

[FFC Mariner]

I think the whole idea was for them to be equal and of the same importance as the men’s team.

That was certainly Shaun's view.

 

[pjennings]

Well the good thing is we have the $1.2mil from Afc Elite to help offset the APL shitting the bed

Full prize money break down (AUD equivalent of USD at current rate) - no mention of travel subsidies

League Stage Participation	$1.2M
+Round of 16	$300K
+Quarter-Finals	$600K
+Semi-Finals	$900K
Runner-Up	$6M
Champions	$15M
Total for Champions	$18M
Total for Runner-Up	$9M

 

[sydmariner]

At what point do they consider playing the Women's games at a smaller and less expensive ground?

I thought that ccs was the only ground on the coast that meats requirements.

 

[midfielder]

Jerks with new owners, Drive Bys with new coach, South Gosford FC, New Year match should all draw after last season very good crowds

An idea from a guy at a pub.

Away interstate members make tickets half price to encourage more travelling fans.

 

[midfielder]

Assume we play 13 home games, assume across Jerks, Drive Bys, SFC, NEW Year we get five games if we can average 15k for those games and 10 K for the remaining 8 games we could go close to 12k average.

As for the girls can't see them getting 50% of 12k.

A lot depends on the draw, would love each game to be 7:30 Saturday night

 

[priorpeter]

Away interstate members make tickets half price to encourage more travelling fans.

They’ve long talked about putting together travel deals to try and encourage more interstate fans to attend. Every time it gets firmly filed in the too hard basket.
Based on the ‘deals’ - and I use the term in the loosest way possible - they ended up offering for travelling fans for Unite round, I wouldn’t be optimistic of their offerings anyway.

 

[sydmariner]

Was thinking about Unite Round.

 

[pjennings]

At what point do they consider playing the Women's games at a smaller and less expensive ground?

TBH - I would love to see a small, expandable stadium at Tuggerah, say 5,000-6,000 capacity. Richard did say he was after investors for infrastructure. No idea of the cost but something like the Tarneit with a couple of small stand either side.

We played 30 CCM matches (not finals) at the Stadium. 13 ALM games - 10 games were over 6.000 so assume they stay at the CCS - indeed that's where the ALM history is.

The other 17 games, the AFC had 6 games and a high attendance of 4037 and the ALW had 11 games and a high attendance of 5735 could all be played at such a stadium. Throw in 15 NPL games, future National Youth League that JJ is still pushing for and any Australia Cup games. Put in a limited license clubhouse (up to 60 days) and you would have 30-40 games there a year plus a place to watch away games and Socceroo / Matilda games.

No idea of the capital costs but the match day costs would drastically drop and the food and drink profits would go to the Club. No-one at the club I assume would have the expertise in running and maintaining even a small stadium so that would have to be factored in as well.