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A league media deal thread

Tevor

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So listened to the Global Game podcast, the media deal has not changed it’s the APL that have decided to give less to the clubs from the media money. Lots of agenda’s going on at the moment. Peil’s comment was specifically mentioned as well. When you know the details as Hill mentioned it’s a very messed up place the APL.
 

turbo

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the media deal has not changed it’s the APL that have decided to give less to the clubs from the media money
Did they give any more detail? Because off the top of my head there's possibilities like:
They actually gave out too much for income this season and needed to correct
Rising production costs mean less to distribute
 

dlanod

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Murdoch can't own a paper and a TV station in the same city can he?
Or did they change the law?
It's two of three (TV, newspaper, radio). News Corp doesn't own radio assets, so can buy a TV station these days. However Lachlan Murdoch owns NOVA radio stations and is chairman of News Corp, so there'd need to be some wiggle there about concentration of media with him specifically.
 

Tevor

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Did they give any more detail? Because off the top of my head there's possibilities like:
They actually gave out too much for income this season and needed to correct
Rising production costs mean less to distribute
What Hill said was after year one the deal was re negotiated and I believe he said in 2021 and that it has not changed since. So the APL is getting the same cash as they did the last few years. What I suspect he was getting at is the production costs which the APL took on are so much higher with that other company going broke so now the Clubs get less as they have to pay much higher production costs. There is an agenda to make Paramount out to be the bad guys but it is purely all the APL’s doing. The cash that has been wasted by the APL is extraordinary and that is who should be held accountable not Paramount.

Makes sense, when I was talking to Rich in Oman and I had a few by then he was suggesting the new APL is trying to sort out a big mess which will be very difficult and take time. I suspect there is a possibility the APL may not even survive. Also explains why he and MC are after new investors as it is going to be a lot more expensive next year to run a club with so much less cash from the APL.
 

turbo

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There is an agenda to make Paramount out to be the bad guys but it is purely all the APL’s doing. The cash that has been wasted by the APL is extraordinary and that is who should be held accountable not Paramount.
I agree the APL got themselves into this mess. I think P+ had a major role in the subs KPI not being achieved (if they were ever achievable) with their app issues but ultimately that still comes back to the APL negotiating and agreeing to the deal. No argument from me around the APL wastage.
 

turbo

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It's two of three (TV, newspaper, radio). News Corp doesn't own radio assets, so can buy a TV station these days. However Lachlan Murdoch owns NOVA radio stations and is chairman of News Corp, so there'd need to be some wiggle there about concentration of media with him specifically.
If it means losing the network the rules will bend or go away entirely. The government doesnt want that happening on their watch.
 

Big Al

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What Hill said was after year one the deal was re negotiated and I believe he said in 2021 and that it has not changed since. So the APL is getting the same cash as they did the last few years. What I suspect he was getting at is the production costs which the APL took on are so much higher with that other company going broke so now the Clubs get less as they have to pay much higher production costs. There is an agenda to make Paramount out to be the bad guys but it is purely all the APL’s doing. The cash that has been wasted by the APL is extraordinary and that is who should be held accountable not Paramount.

Makes sense, when I was talking to Rich in Oman and I had a few by then he was suggesting the new APL is trying to sort out a big mess which will be very difficult and take time. I suspect there is a possibility the APL may not even survive. Also explains why he and MC are after new investors as it is going to be a lot more expensive next year to run a club with so much less cash from the APL.
Makes sense because didn’t paramount come out and say APL didn’t ask them to do production. So there is mud slinging between the two supposed partners.

Danny tried to do a deal with a cheap mob and they went under now they have to pay proper production rates.

Still haven’t hears ditching VAR which would make some small savings on go pros and useless officiating
 

dlanod

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If it means losing the network the rules will bend or go away entirely. The government doesnt want that happening on their watch.
I'd imagine Lachlan would happily divest himself of his radio assets if it means News Corp can get hold of a television license. NOVA is worth more than Ch 10 on paper, but Ch 10 has massive upside compared to FM radio.
 

Big Al

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I'd imagine Lachlan would happily divest himself of his radio assets if it means News Corp can get hold of a television license. NOVA is worth more than Ch 10 on paper, but Ch 10 has massive upside compared to FM radio.
Not so sure about that. TV as we know it isn’t what it used to be. Especially 10. It’s hard to break up the dominance of 7 and 9 news and the rest just isn’t resonating with as many people.

That is why sports are so important to those networks but they have the dominance of the two codes that use hands
 

midfielder

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Murdoch can't own a paper and a TV station in the same city can he?
Or did they change the law?
Nine does.... now... in fact Nine goes... TV, Stream, Radio and Paper

He spend a lot of time getting permission to buy 10 when it was in Administration... he got pipped at the post by Paramount who had the advantage of having an extra media player...
 

Tevor

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Not sure if its the right thread but Optus just got the FA Cup rights from Paramount. Consolidation onto 1 platform is al ittle closer
It would be awesome if it happened, one place for all football is a dream. Surely P- are vulnerable and Optus could pick up the A League at a good price.
 

Corsair

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It would be awesome if it happened, one place for all football is a dream. Surely P- are vulnerable and Optus could pick up the A League at a good price.
I hope not, it's pissed me off they got the euros since I'm not an optus customer. Good old bbc over vpn 😉
 

Stuartmcateer

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I hope not, it's pissed me off they got the euros since I'm not an optus customer. Good old bbc over vpn 😉
But that's potentially a problem no matter who picks it up. Optus is my ISP so I have it.

I didn't have Foxtel (and kayo don't have any football since they lost beIN) and wasn't going to pay for it just for A league. I refuse to pay for Stan plus the sports add on just for the ECL/Europa games. I wouldn't have P+ if they hadn't offered me 12 months for $40 - the a league alone isn't worth paying full price. I'm going to cancel when it reverts to full price.

Optus having EPL, la liga, Euros, copa America, J league, K league, German cup, USA and England women's leagues plus now FA cup at least makes it a reasonable value to subscribe as opposed to other services with minimal football.
 

Corsair

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But that's potentially a problem no matter who picks it up. Optus is my ISP so I have it.

I didn't have Foxtel (and kayo don't have any football since they lost beIN) and wasn't going to pay for it just for A league. I refuse to pay for Stan plus the sports add on just for the ECL/Europa games. I wouldn't have P+ if they hadn't offered me 12 months for $40 - the a league alone isn't worth paying full price. I'm going to cancel when it reverts to full price.

Optus having EPL, la liga, Euros, copa America, J league, K league, German cup, USA and England women's leagues plus now FA cup at least makes it a reasonable value to subscribe as opposed to other services with minimal football.
I only watch Aleague and P- actually has some decent content from time to time. It's cheap enough I'm happy to pay for it.

Optus on the other hand got hacked and leaked my personal data onto the dark Web and are generally inferior to Telstra.
 

Stuartmcateer

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Optus on the other hand got hacked and leaked my personal data onto the dark Web and are generally inferior to Telstra.
Nearly everyone has been hacked - some banks and govt departments have had various levels of breaches.

If you have an account with someone chances are they will have some sort of event.🤷🏻‍♂️
 

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