Will Trump be Charged with Treason

[Wombat]

Where did you cut and paste this from? Where is source and link?

You like most people dont care. Head in the sand and pretend we didn't get rooted by the Chinese and WHO.

 

[Spacks]

"Just you wait until your father gets home" has never hit harder

 

[marinermick]

You like most people dont care. Head in the sand and pretend we didn't get rooted by the Chinese and WHO.

And you just parrot a whole heap of words from Skynews without any basis.

All I asked is a link for your cut and paste so I could read it myself and evaluate the quality of the information supplied. Is this not unreasonable.

But yet again you play the man instead of the ball.

 

[Wombat]

And you just parrot a whole heap of words from Skynews without any basis.

All I asked is a link for your cut and paste so I could read it myself and evaluate the quality of the information supplied. Is this not unreasonable.

But yet again you play the man instead of the ball.

Nice try. I don't watch Sky News. Too blatantly RW for my liking although they are more likely to tell the truth than MSM which gets worse and worse.

 

[pjennings]

The only news worth watching is SBS. I do watch NBN for the CCM snippets.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

You like most people dont care. Head in the sand and pretend we didn't get rooted by the Chinese and WHO.

FFS Wombat, asking for a link to your copy post was a completely reasonable request. And something we should all be doing.

Taking offence to being asked 'where did that come from' is the sort of crap you see on conspiracy pages, the sort where you get banned for asking questions.

Be better than that.

@marinermick is right - you're constantly just playing the man and not the ball on here. The sort of thing that contributed to getting 2 of these threads shut down already.

Nice try. I don't watch Sky News. Too blatantly RW for my liking although they are more likely to tell the truth than MSM which gets worse and worse.

Sky News aren't MSM? That's a good one.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Reuters or AP for news. That's closest to the source and is the least unreliable.

 

[true believer]

Studying might be a better use of their time.

seems like they have a pretty good grasp of history .
and have the correct solution for fascism

 

[true believer]

Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), which is part of the NIH, told Congress in May that the NIH "has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology." Ebright said: "The documents make it clear that assertions by the NIH director, Francis Collins, and the NIAID director, Anthony Fauci, that the NIH did not support gain-of-function research or potential pandemic pathogen enhancement in Wuhan are untruthful."
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A disagreement between Republican Sen. Rand Paul and Dr. Anthony Fauci has put $600,000 of U.S. grant money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology back into the spotlight, while making “gain-of-function” research a household term — all amid calls for more investigation into the origins of SARS-CoV-2.
At issue is whether the National Institutes of Health funded research on bat coronaviruses that could have caused a pathogen to become more infectious to humans and, separately, if SARS-CoV-2 — the virus that causes the disease COVID-19 — transferred naturally from bats to humans, possibly through an intermediate host animal, or if a virus, a naturally occurring one or a lab-enhanced one, was accidentally released from the Wuhan lab.

There are a lot of unknowns, speculation and differences of opinion on these topics. But let’s start with what we do know: In 2014, the NIH awarded a grant to the U.S.-based EcoHealth Alliance to study the risk of the future emergence of coronaviruses from bats. In 2019, the project was renewed for another five years, but it was canceled in April 2020 — three months after the first case of the coronavirus was confirmed in the U.S.

EcoHealth ultimately received $3.7 million over six years from the NIH and distributed nearly $600,000 of that total to China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology, a collaborator on the project, pre-approved by NIH.

The grant cancellation came at a time when then-President Donald Trump and others questioned the U.S. funding to a lab in Wuhan, while exaggerating the amount of federal money involved.

Wuhan, of course, is where the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic emerged in late 2019.

The Wuhan Institute of Virology has studied bat coronaviruses for years and their potential to ultimately infect humans, under the direction of scientist Shi Zhengli, as the Scientific American explained in a June 2020 story. Such zoonotic transfer — meaning transmission of a virus from an animal to a human — of coronaviruses occurred with the SARS and MERS coronaviruses, which led to global outbreaks in 2003 and 2012. Both viruses are thought to have started in bats, and then transferred into humans through intermediate animals — civets and racoon dogs, in the case of SARS, and camels in the case of MERS.

Experts have suspected the SARS-CoV-2 virus similarly originated in bats. Researchers in China — including at the Wuhan Institute of Virology — have said the virus shares 96% of its genome with a bat virus collected by researchers in 2013 in Yunnan Province, China. (While that’s quite similar, Dr. Stanley Perlman, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the University of Iowa who studies coronaviruses and a pediatric infectious disease physician, told us it would be “impossible” to take such a virus and make the kind of changes required to turn it into SARS-CoV-2 in a lab. One would need a virus that’s 99.9% similar, and “in theory it might work.”)

An article published in Nature Medicine in March 2020 said that the virus likely originated through “natural selection in an animal host before zoonotic transfer,” or “natural selection in humans following zoonotic transfer.” The researchers, who analyzed genomic data, said SARS-CoV-2 “is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.” While they said an accidental laboratory release of the naturally occurring virus can’t be ruled out, they said they “do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible.”

In an April 2020 statement, University of Sydney professor Edward Holmes, who was involved in mapping the genome of SARS-CoV-2, responded to “unfounded speculation” that the bat virus with 96% similarity was the origin of SARS-CoV-2. He said: “In summary, the abundance, diversity and evolution of coronaviruses in wildlife strongly suggests that this virus is of natural origin. However, a greater sampling of animal species in nature, including bats from Hubei province, is needed to resolve the exact origins of SARS-CoV-2.”

The U.S. Intelligence Community said in an April 30, 2020, statement that it “concurs with the wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not manmade or genetically modified,” and that it “will continue to rigorously examine emerging information and intelligence to determine whether the outbreak began through contact with infected animals or if it was the result of an accident at a laboratory in Wuhan.”

The zoonotic transfer theory hasn’t been proven; for example, no intermediate animal host, as was the case for SARS of MERS, has yet been identified. Lab-accident theories haven’t been proven either — whether a lab worker could have been infected by a naturally occurring virus and then transmitted it outside the lab, or, as Paul and others suggest, a lab-manipulated virus could be the origin.

But recently there has been renewed debate over the origin. On May 14 the journal Science published a letter from 18 scientists calling for “more investigation” to determine how the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic began. “Theories of accidental release from a lab and zoonotic spillover both remain viable,” they wrote. “Knowing how COVID-19 emerged is critical for informing global strategies to mitigate the risk of future outbreaks.”

Jesse Bloom, one of the organizers of that letter, who studies viral evolution at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, told us in an email: “We know that SARS-CoV-2 is similar to other coronaviruses that circulate in bats, so the deep origins of the virus are definitely from bat coronaviruses. As far as the immediate proximal origins, we simply don’t know the details.”

Bloom said zoonotic transfer either directly from a bat to a human or through an intermediate host animal is possible, as is a lab accident from research of similar viruses. “Because we don’t know the details for either of these scenarios, it’s not possible to say whether a hypothetical lab accident would have involved a virus exactly identical to that isolated in nature, or one that had been grown or somehow modestly manipulated in a lab. At this point, all of these are hypothetical scenarios, and while different scientists may have different guesses at how likely each scenario is, we need more information before anyone can be certain.”

The scientists are hardly alone in calling for more investigation.

As the letter noted, the U.S. government, along with 13 other countries, also had called for more inquiry into the origins in a March statement this year.


Fauci and Shi Zhengli are Gold Medal liars.

yeah wombat got this from here

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/05/the-wuhan-lab-and-the-gain-of-function-disagreement/

russian stooge ,rand paul. should of explained how you build a world class bio weapons
program for 600k . considering this research has been happening since the 60's . or maybe explain why it's only and issue now .
of course the murdoch stooge and f**kwit that launched this fantasy on the chinese was
scott morrison . that c**t cost australia over 20 billion dollars for this one fiasco .
how much of that did rand paul or murdoch pay back to australia ?

 

[Wombat]

FFS Wombat, asking for a link to your copy post was a completely reasonable request. And something we should all be doing.

Taking offence to being asked 'where did that come from' is the sort of crap you see on conspiracy pages, the sort where you get banned for asking questions.

Be better than that.

@marinermick is right - you're constantly just playing the man and not the ball on here. The sort of thing that contributed to getting 2 of these threads shut down already.



Sky News aren't MSM? That's a good one.

Shut up you LW stooge, give me a break. As a Football pundit i have respect for you brother. As a Ref...i've met worse. As a LW stooge.......What the Absolute f**k! ....... Yes vote and Gay vote, Biden is great, Covid never happened, Hamas love puppies .....get a grip, get a job in the real world and wake up to yourself. We have enough Simps bra.....step down.

 

[Wombat]

yeah wombat got this from here

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/05/the-wuhan-lab-and-the-gain-of-function-disagreement/

russian stooge ,rand paul. should of explained how you build a world class bio weapons
program for 600k . considering this research has been happening since the 60's . or maybe explain why it's only and issue now .
of course the murdoch stooge and f**kwit that launched this fantasy on the chinese was
scott morrison . that c**t cost australia over 20 billion dollars for this one fiasco .
how much of that did rand paul or murdoch pay back to australia ?

Love you TB but your pain meds are an issue!

 

[Wombat]

Reuters or AP for news. That's closest to the source and is the least unreliable.

All MSM is basically Reuters with any truth redacted.

 

[VonBowellski]

Anyone taking bets on when this thread gets shut down as the next politics name calling BS?

 

[Wombat]

FFS Wombat, asking for a link to your copy post was a completely reasonable request. And something we should all be doing.

Taking offence to being asked 'where did that come from' is the sort of crap you see on conspiracy pages, the sort where you get banned for asking questions.

Be better than that.

@marinermick is right - you're constantly just playing the man and not the ball on here. The sort of thing that contributed to getting 2 of these threads shut down already.



Sky News aren't MSM? That's a good one.

Your main man TB got your drivel threads shut down Capt. Please dont try and blame me or Captain Cook for it.

 

[marinermick]

Anyone taking bets on when this thread gets shut down as the next politics name calling BS?

Funny how the insults from both sides seem to come up after 8pm. At least Scott Mac owned up to his troubles.

 

[true believer]

You are a Godless soul TB and yet you worship at the house of Gumprecht.

oh wombat .light of Ra dispelled the darkness .

Ra shines his light on the mariners shirt in edfu temple



magic stones appear at the holy of hollies .
staj, like oannes . appears at sacred gossie .he teaches his wisdom and resurrects from the dead
a gilmesh like figure ,matt simon .

 

[true believer]

Love you TB but your pain meds are an issue!

i sure the australians that loss 20 billion agree with you
as for a quisling like rand paul .there are direct payments from the russians to him

 

[true believer]

Shut up you LW stooge, give me a break. As a Football pundit i have respect for you brother. As a Ref...i've met worse. As a LW stooge.......What the Absolute f**k! ....... Yes vote and Gay vote, Biden is great, Covid never happened, Hamas love puppies .....get a grip, get a job in the real world and wake up to yourself. We have enough Simps bra.....step down.

meds issue ? Brexit regret ?

 

[true believer]

All MSM is basically Reuters with any truth redacted.

good to see harry arse rape the murdoch's ,,,,,,,again in court .
for being lying grifters

 

[true believer]

Anyone taking bets on when this thread gets shut down as the next politics name calling BS?

by everyone you mean you