The Socceroos thread.

[Allreet?]

While I broadly agree, every time I watch the Socceroos I always feel like Duke is literally the least of the problems of that team. At least he gets on the board moderately often compared to anyone else and puts the effort in - he's not great at that level, but there's half a dozen I'd shuffle around first.

Duke is way too slow. On the few occasions we did get behind the defence he was nowhere near where he needed to be.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/09/11/tired-clueless-shambles-football-australias-huge-arnie-dilemma-after-woeful-start-to-world-cup-qualifiers/

 

[FFC Mariner]

Arnie blaming the players. Lost the dressing room?
Sooner he's gone the better.
He had the chance to renew the squad and he bottled it

 

[Big Al]

Used up our 1-0 of 1 Shot Wins at the world cup


Sounds like Arnie knows its over and will jump before pushed

 

[sydmariner]

Used up our 1-0 of 1 Shot Wins at the world cup


Sounds like Arnie knows its over and will jump before pushed

He won’t get punted, JJ & FA will use the excuse of Qatar (22 WC) & the Peru shootout to keep him on.

 

[Allreet?]

If it gets mathematically dodgy, I reckon he's gone.

Points dropped against China will be his death knell.

 

[FFC Mariner]

He will get a job elsewhere 1st.
Then bail

 

[Ads]

We desperately needed Bos or Farrell youth injection in a wing back position to unlock overlaps and counter attacks.

And obvious to us but Nizzy in the 10 role feeding Goodwin and Irunkunda with little diagonal balls would unlock a lot more hard low shots that harder to defend than the shit show that Arnie provided.

 

[sydmariner]

He will get a job elsewhere 1st.
Then bail

A few years ago he was offered the job at FC Seoul but turned it down.

 

[Tevor]

We desperately needed Bos or Farrell youth injection in a wing back position to unlock overlaps and counter attacks.

And obvious to us but Nizzy in the 10 role feeding Goodwin and Irunkunda with little diagonal balls would unlock a lot more hard low shots that harder to defend than the shit show that Arnie provided.

To be honest I rate a fit and firing Goodwin, we got far from that last night. He along with other old guards like Duke looked really rusty and below par. The National team under Arnie does not play a game that suits Niz. He gave Mabil heaps of space and ball for him to waste it every time. Not sure where you go with the last two games. The young guys overall looked lively and keen which is the only positive.

 

[turbo]

We desperately needed Bos or Farrell youth injection in a wing back position to unlock overlaps and counter attacks.

It’s a shame they are both injured.

I can’t stress how poor the decision was to put on Rowles in LB at the death chasing the win. Deng, Devlin or even Boyle would have made more sense for the little defending the wide backs were doing by then.

 

[Big Al]

Used up our 1-0 of 1 Shot Wins at the world cup


Sounds like Arnie knows its over and will jump before pushed

Sounds like he might jump.

“I need to go home and have a long hard think”.

Sounded like I don’t have the answers

“I don’t play the game the players do”

Blaming the players doesn’t get you far

 

[sydmariner]

Plan B?

 

[Ozhammer]

Plan B?

Do Plan A better no? 😏

 

[Stuartmcateer]

You don't win qualifying in the first 2 games but you can certainly lose it.

My calculations have us needing to beat china and Saudi both home and away, win the return legs for both Bahrain and Indonesia as well as take points off Japan in 1 of the 2 games (and not get pumped in the other).

 

[FFC Mariner]

Lisa: it's gone

Homer: I know

As the pig sails out of sight

 

[Wombat]

I lost money on these poorly coached wasters. At least Jordan did the business for me.

#Arnie Out.

 

[turbo]

You don't win qualifying in the first 2 games but you can certainly lose it.

My calculations have us needing to beat china and Saudi both home and away, win the return legs for both Bahrain and Indonesia as well as take points off Japan in 1 of the 2 games (and not get pumped in the other).

I dont think it'll be quite that bad and there's bound to be surprises from the other teams playing each other. Agree that the margin for error is shrinking rapidly though. If we dont beat China Arnold could well be out after the Japan game.

 

[pjennings]

I dont think it'll be quite that bad and there's bound to be surprises from the other teams playing each other. Agree that the margin for error is shrinking rapidly though. If we dont beat China Arnold could well be out after the Japan game.

I'm with you. I don't think it is dire as some are making out. But we must beat China and at least minimise any damage against Japan. Arnold statement about not bring able to play for them may give an indication that he is losing the dressing room. It is true though both Yengi and Duke should have scored against Bahrain in spit of the poor performance and Duke again missed a header he should have put away on Tuesday.

TBH - if he learns from this and we refresh the midfield (including Goodwin who has been poor but always seems to get a pass mark from everybody), bring in Farrell and Bos on the left. I'm looking for a few long termers missing for the China game. Goodwin, Behich, Irvine should not be making the squad. Niz needs to start, Robertson needs to come into the squad at least and I can't see what Metcalfe brings.

 

[Stuartmcateer]

I'm with you. I don't think it is dire as some are making out.

I'm basing it on last WC where 22 points was second. To get to 22 we need to win 7 of the remaining 8.
We were on 15 in 3rd (4th was 14 points so we really only just scraped in). So to get there we need to win 5 of 8 - or win 4 and draw 2.

Assuming that we won't get points off Japan, we have to, as a minimum,win 4 and draw 2 out of the remaining 6.

Not impossible, and there will no doubt be some odd results in the other games, but we are certainly behind the 8 ball and with little wiggle room left.

6 points in these 2 games would have us set up nicely.

It's been a while since I have seen a Socceroos team this poor. Not just technically but Bahrain and Indonesia out enthused us.

 

[FFC Mariner]

I'm basing it on last WC where 22 points was second. To get to 22 we need to win 7 of the remaining 8.
We were on 15 in 3rd (4th was 14 points so we really only just scraped in). So to get there we need to win 5 of 8 - or win 4 and draw 2.

Assuming that we won't get points off Japan, we have to, as a minimum,win 4 and draw 2 out of the remaining 6.

Not impossible, and there will no doubt be some odd results in the other games, but we are certainly behind the 8 ball and with little wiggle room left.

6 points in these 2 games would have us set up nicely.

It's been a while since I have seen a Socceroos team this poor. Not just technically but Bahrain and Indonesia out enthused us.

Signs the dressing room has gone, same as the Matilda's they just down tools