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The Salt Mine: Dig Deep, Stay Salty

pjennings

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I don't use Vote Compass - I find that it very superficial and only covers a few policy areas or only asks one or two questions in a policy area. Essentially this tells you nothing but that is the state of political and economic journalism in Australia. (How I miss Ken Begg and Alan Ramsey).

TBH the left and right labels are also rather dubious. I suspect I am probably approaching around where the LNP is supposed sitting economically (though that is based more on rhetoric than performance over the last 50 years). Socially I suspect I am more 'liberal' socially in the true sense than the ALP but nowhere near the Greens (economic vandals and essentially like ONP - a party of protest not government).

Australia is always at its best when the two major parties are debating over the issues that Australians care about (not what Sky or 2GB or any number of outlets claim are important. The vast majority of Australians are centrists and what very similar things. It is only at the periphery of the delivery that there is usually some natural division (as opposed to stirred up division).

The other beef I have is the ability of politicians of all persuasions to spread misinformation and indeed fot he media to perpetuate it. A classic example is the so-called Mediscare campaign. Essentially the Brisbane HQ of the ALP sent out text messages with the subject of Medicare. Turnbull - who was instrumental in Australias' first real internet company AOL said it was shown to be from Medicare - that is incorrect and always was incorrect. The subject of the text, not the sender which was clearly Brisbane ALP HQ, was Medicare. Turnbull with his background must have known the difference.

As reported by the ABC at the time and the truth never reported to the same extent.

On Friday, voters reported receiving text messages that appeared to be from "Medicare" as they went to the polls.

"Mr Turnbull's plans to privatise Medicare will take us down the road of no return. Time is running out to Save Medicare," the text read.

The Australian Federal Police said in a statement it had received a complaint about the messages.

"The Australian Federal Police (AFP) can confirm it has received a referral on Saturday 2 July 2016 in relation to the receipt of text messages allegedly sent from Medicare," it said.
 

Hello Sailor

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Let’s see how right all the left-insulting forum members are:


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I WAS going to dismiss your evidence as 'drivel' [because you can do that here if it challenges your beliefs].....but.......Lordy Lordy, you CAN answer a survey question!. Most were binary and/or easily rephrased to be binary questions. Well done!
Careful about using labels like lefties here, they are very sensitive and only feel comfortable when they are putting shit on conservatives.
 
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true believer

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I don't use Vote Compass - I find that it very superficial and only covers a few policy areas or only asks one or two questions in a policy area. Essentially this tells you nothing but that is the state of political and economic journalism in Australia. (How I miss Ken Begg and Alan Ramsey).

TBH the left and right labels are also rather dubious. I suspect I am probably approaching around where the LNP is supposed sitting economically (though that is based more on rhetoric than performance over the last 50 years). Socially I suspect I am more 'liberal' socially in the true sense than the ALP but nowhere near the Greens (economic vandals and essentially like ONP - a party of protest not government).

Australia is always at its best when the two major parties are debating over the issues that Australians care about (not what Sky or 2GB or any number of outlets claim are important. The vast majority of Australians are centrists and what very similar things. It is only at the periphery of the delivery that there is usually some natural division (as opposed to stirred up division).

The other beef I have is the ability of politicians of all persuasions to spread misinformation and indeed fot he media to perpetuate it. A classic example is the so-called Mediscare campaign. Essentially the Brisbane HQ of the ALP sent out text messages with the subject of Medicare. Turnbull - who was instrumental in Australias' first real internet company AOL said it was shown to be from Medicare - that is incorrect and always was incorrect. The subject of the text, not the sender which was clearly Brisbane ALP HQ, was Medicare. Turnbull with his background must have known the difference.

As reported by the ABC at the time and the truth never reported to the same extent.

On Friday, voters reported receiving text messages that appeared to be from "Medicare" as they went to the polls.

"Mr Turnbull's plans to privatise Medicare will take us down the road of no return. Time is running out to Save Medicare," the text read.

The Australian Federal Police said in a statement it had received a complaint about the messages.

"The Australian Federal Police (AFP) can confirm it has received a referral on Saturday 2 July 2016 in relation to the receipt of text messages allegedly sent from Medicare," it said.

i think there are rank amateurs and there a multi million dollar funded disinformation campagians

 

true believer

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I WAS going to dismiss your evidence as 'drivel' but.......Lordy Lordy, you CAN answer a survey question!. Well done!
Careful about using labels like lefties here, they are very sensitive and only feel comfortable when they are putting shit on conservatives.
yes/no all muslims are rag heads
yes/no people with disablities should just work harder
yes/no vaccines cause cancer and autism

lables right
 

marinermick

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I WAS going to dismiss your evidence as 'drivel' [because you can do that here if it challenges your beliefs].....but.......Lordy Lordy, you CAN answer a survey question!. Most were binary and/or easily rephrased to be binary questions. Well done!
Careful about using labels like lefties here, they are very sensitive and only feel comfortable when they are putting shit on conservatives.

Wow, you still are salty. Ads labeled this thread perfectly when he started it.
 

Hello Sailor

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Wow, you still are salty. Ads labeled this thread perfectly when he started it.
You are a hypocrite Mariner Mick.
So are all those fans who flew to Asia for something as frivolous as a football game, yet want more done about global warming. Cheap flights.com.au says that the average flight from Sydney to Shandong is 13 hours. The carbon dioxide emissions for each traveller on a return journey is nearly six tonnes.
 
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true believer

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Don't forget homophobia.
look it's schrodinger's dog ! these guys don't know if the guy in the big dog suit, reading to 3 year olds
is gay, trans or straight .that's what terrifies them .
they'd rather good father trick'm up read bible stories to them .like Lot, the only good man in sodom and gamorah . conveniently having his wife turned to a pillar of salt .then raping his daughters .

bugger that the only thing the 3 year olds wanted was someone to read them the very hungry cataplier !
 

true believer

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I dont like hypocrites Mariner Mick.
bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha , oh f'k off
eg to all those fans who flew to Asia for something as frivolous as a football game, yet want more done about global warming. Cheap flights.com.au says that the average flight from Sydney to Shandong is 13 hours. The carbon dioxide emissions for each traveller on a return journey is nearly six tonnes.
400 hundred private jets at darvos repeated any time there is a climate conference .
sure you're not simon benson
 

marinermick

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You are a hypocrite Mariner Mick.
So are all those fans who flew to Asia for something as frivolous as a football game, yet want more done about global warming. Cheap flights.com.au says that the average flight from Sydney to Shandong is 13 hours. The carbon dioxide emissions for each traveller on a return journey is nearly six tonnes.

A very predictable response from someone who deals in such absolutes.
 

Hello Sailor

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A very predictable response from someone who deals in such absolutes.
Ahhhhh, you struggled again with nuance and complexity in these Vote Compass binary questions ;)

Your response to Q 7 on Coal mine expansion was negative wasn't it? Be honest.

Still want to be a climate saviour while dumping tonnes of carbon into the air for an amusing 90 mins?
 

FFC Mariner

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Ahhhhh, you struggled again with nuance and complexity in these Vote Compass binary questions ;)

Your response to Q 7 on Coal mine expansion was negative wasn't it? Be honest.

Still want to be a climate saviour while dumping tonnes of carbon into the air for an amusing 90 mins?
This would be more effective if he actually had gone to China but carry on.
@marinermick just think how big your footprint would have been if you took imaginary trips to more games in Asia?
 

Hello Sailor

Well-Known Member
This would be more effective if he actually had gone to China but carry on.
@marinermick just think how big your footprint would have been if you took imaginary trips to more games in Asia?
It doesnt have to be China, it could be Brizzie, Melbourne, Japan, Adelaide, Korea, the Middle East, Perth, The Phillipines, Bali, Wellington etc. The same principle applies, and its just a matter of degree. Anyone including you, who wants to attack OzHammer, Spax or any climate skeptic while doing such damage to the atmosphere themselves is a joke. I hope they have trouble looking their grandchildren in the eyes.
For the record I am NOT a climate sceptic. I accept the science.
I hope he gives you and Rusted On another nice pat on the head for being his loyal minions
 

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