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Socceroos Squad for 2010

midfielder

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Weve seen all the qualifiers. Weve heard all the shouting. We have exactly one year until kick-off in the 2010 World Cup in South Africa. So heres the challenge: pick a squad of 23 players.

The starting eleven has to be in Pims preferred 4-2-3-1. The remaining twelve may have a touch more flexibility, but must heed Pims general view that there needs to be an understudy for each position.

Plus players to keep an eye on if other players are ruled out.

Midfielder's squad is...


GK Schwarzer, Federici, Bouzanis

DEF Wilkshire, Williams, Neill, Spiranovic,  Carney, Chipperfield, Milligan

MID Emerton, Culina, Cahill, Grella, Bresciano, Kewell, Valeri, Carle, Troisi, Sterjovski

ATT Kennedy, Mcdonald,  Vidosic,

To keep an eye on

Bradden Inman ; Jedi; Richard Garcia; Adrian Leijer; James Wesolowski; Patrick Kisnorbo; Brett Holman; Jade North; Michael Beauchamp;  Bruce Djite; Williams; Rukavytsya; Danny V

Run on Side
............Schwarzer
Wilkshire / Williams . Spiranovic..NeilChipperfield
..Culina .Grella
Emerton . Cahill Kwell
.. McDonald
 

pjennings

Well-Known Member
Not necessarily the team I would pick but the team I believe Pim will pick if all fit and playing. Big if on Viduka

Keepers (3)
Schwarzer, Federici, Pektovic

Defenders (8)
Carney, Chipperfield, Neill, Moore, North, Coyne, Emerton. Wilkshire

Holding Mids (4)

Culina, Valeri, Grella, Jedinak

Attacking Mids (2)

Cahill, Carle

The front and wide (6)

Kewell, McDonald, Viduka, Kennedy, Sterjovski, Bresciano
 
 

bjw

bjw
midfielder said:
We’ve seen all the qualifiers. We’ve heard all the shouting. We have exactly one year until kick-off in the 2010 World Cup in South Africa. So here’s the challenge: pick a squad of 23 players.

The starting eleven has to be in Pim’s preferred 4-2-3-1. The remaining twelve may have a touch more flexibility, but must heed Pim’s general view that there needs to be an understudy for each position.

Plus players to keep an eye on if other players are ruled out.

Midfielder's squad is...


GK Schwarzer, Federici, Bouzanis

DEF Wilkshire, Williams, Neill, Spiranovic,  Carney, Chipperfield, Milligan

MID Emerton, Culina, Cahill, Grella, Bresciano, Kewell, Valeri, Carle, Troisi, Sterjovski

ATT Kennedy, Mcdonald,  Vidosic,

To keep an eye on

Bradden Inman ; Jedi; Richard Garcia; Adrian Leijer; James Wesolowski; Patrick Kisnorbo; Brett Holman; Jade North; Michael Beauchamp;  Bruce Djite; Williams; Rukavytsya; Danny V

Run on Side
……………..........…..Schwarzer
Wilkshire / Williams …. Spiranovic…..Neil…Chipperfield
……………………..Culina …….Grella
Emerton …….…… Cahill………………… Kwell
……………….……. McDonald

I'd add Troisi to the; "To watch list"
 

mariners4ever

Well-Known Member
midfielder said:
We’ve seen all the qualifiers. We’ve heard all the shouting. We have exactly one year until kick-off in the 2010 World Cup in South Africa. So here’s the challenge: pick a squad of 23 players.

The starting eleven has to be in Pim’s preferred 4-2-3-1. The remaining twelve may have a touch more flexibility, but must heed Pim’s general view that there needs to be an understudy for each position.

Plus players to keep an eye on if other players are ruled out.

Midfielder's squad is...


GK Schwarzer, Federici, Bouzanis

DEF Wilkshire, Williams, Neill, Spiranovic,  Carney, Chipperfield, Milligan

MID Emerton, Culina, Cahill, Grella, Bresciano, Kewell, Valeri, Carle, Troisi, Sterjovski

ATT Kennedy, Mcdonald,  Vidosic,

To keep an eye on

Bradden Inman ; Jedi; Richard Garcia; Adrian Leijer; James Wesolowski; Patrick Kisnorbo; Brett Holman; Jade North; Michael Beauchamp;  Bruce Djite; Williams; Rukavytsya; Danny V

Run on Side
……………..........…..Schwarzer
Wilkshire / Williams …. Spiranovic…..Neil…Chipperfield
……………………..Culina …….Grella
Emerton …….…… Cahill………………… Kwell
……………….……. McDonald

do you really think pim will leave out lolman if he is even slightly fit ???
 

Jazzie

Sheer joy at beating the scum :)
mariners4ever said:
midfielder said:
We’ve seen all the qualifiers. We’ve heard all the shouting. We have exactly one year until kick-off in the 2010 World Cup in South Africa. So here’s the challenge: pick a squad of 23 players.

The starting eleven has to be in Pim’s preferred 4-2-3-1. The remaining twelve may have a touch more flexibility, but must heed Pim’s general view that there needs to be an understudy for each position.

Plus players to keep an eye on if other players are ruled out.

Midfielder's squad is...


GK Schwarzer, Federici, Bouzanis

DEF Wilkshire, Williams, Neill, Spiranovic,  Carney, Chipperfield, Milligan

MID Emerton, Culina, Cahill, Grella, Bresciano, Kewell, Valeri, Carle, Troisi, Sterjovski

ATT Kennedy, Mcdonald,  Vidosic,

To keep an eye on

Bradden Inman ; Jedi; Richard Garcia; Adrian Leijer; James Wesolowski; Patrick Kisnorbo; Brett Holman; Jade North; Michael Beauchamp;  Bruce Djite; Williams; Rukavytsya; Danny V

Run on Side
……………..........…..Schwarzer
Wilkshire / Williams …. Spiranovic…..Neil…Chipperfield
……………………..Culina …….Grella
Emerton …….…… Cahill………………… Kwell
……………….……. McDonald

do you really think pim will leave out lolman if he is even slightly fit ???

God, I hope so!! Love Pim, but lolman is an average player, imo. Don't know what Pim sees in him. Am I being too hard???
 

midfielder

Well-Known Member
mariners4ever said:
midfielder said:
We’ve seen all the qualifiers. We’ve heard all the shouting. We have exactly one year until kick-off in the 2010 World Cup in South Africa. So here’s the challenge: pick a squad of 23 players.

The starting eleven has to be in Pim’s preferred 4-2-3-1. The remaining twelve may have a touch more flexibility, but must heed Pim’s general view that there needs to be an understudy for each position.

Plus players to keep an eye on if other players are ruled out.

Midfielder's squad is...


GK Schwarzer, Federici, Bouzanis

DEF Wilkshire, Williams, Neill, Spiranovic,  Carney, Chipperfield, Milligan

MID Emerton, Culina, Cahill, Grella, Bresciano, Kewell, Valeri, Carle, Troisi, Sterjovski

ATT Kennedy, Mcdonald,  Vidosic,

To keep an eye on

Bradden Inman ; Jedi; Richard Garcia; Adrian Leijer; James Wesolowski; Patrick Kisnorbo; Brett Holman; Jade North; Michael Beauchamp;  Bruce Djite; Williams; Rukavytsya; Danny V

Run on Side
……………..........…..Schwarzer
Wilkshire / Williams …. Spiranovic…..Neil…Chipperfield
……………………..Culina …….Grella
Emerton …….…… Cahill………………… Kwell
……………….……. McDonald

do you really think pim will leave out lolman if he is even slightly fit ???

It's my squad ... Pim may think different .. but that's my squad.

Brennan IMO Troisis is a good enough to be a squad player ... 
 

Jocwa08

Well-Known Member
i was thinking bout jedi's spot in africa
with a squad of 23 with 3 keepers
four holding mids is alot to take leaving 16
for other positions, jedi is surely at the bottom
of Culina, Grella and Valeri. Think he will go or stay?
 

Kareem

Well-Known Member
If i was picking the squad


GK: Schwarzer, Jones/Frederici, Bouzanis               
Probably would choose Frederici...which IMO is then pointless of having Jones as 3rd choice, Bouzanis wont play, but experience = good (I will risk the extremely unlikely chance that Schwarzer + Frederici get injured)

Defenders: Emerton, Wilkshire, Neill, Spiranovic, Beauchamp, Chipperfield, Carney,

Midfielders: Cahill, Kewell, Bresc, Culina, Grella, Valeri, Carle, Troisi, Sterjovski, Jedinak

Attack: McDonald, Kennedy, Rukavytska

I would choose Rukavytska over Djite + Vidosic (speed up front of bench is crazy...nobody faster than Ruka!)
Jedi over Beuchamp for versatility

We have 2 RB , 3 CB (+ Jedi), 2 LB
4 DM, 2 RW (+ Emerton), 2 AM, 2 LW (+ Carney)
3 CF (+ Cahill if behind)

+'s= versatile players (I know Neill, Culina, Kewell etc. can play other positions but would be simply a waste!)

Players to watch: Jones (unlucky), North, Milligan + Kisnorbo (better players than them at CB), Williams (2 more experienced RB's- stupid to take a 3rd), Holman (lol), Garcia (too inexperienced), Vidosic + Djite (too inexperienced)



but PIM will choose
GK: Schwarzer, Jones, Frederici
Defenders: Emerton, Wilkshire, Neill, Spiranovic, Milligan, Beuchamp (if fit, if not then North), Chipperfield, Carney
Midfielders: Bresc, Cahill, Kewell, Holman, Carle, Sterjovski, Grella, Culina, Valeri
Strikers: McDonald, Kennedy, Vidosic

Shock guesses= no Williams (i personally wont be shocked)
Unlucky= North, Jedi, Troisi, Garcia


So I will differ with PIM on Jedi vs Milligan, Bouzanis vs Jones, Williams vs Troisi (I simply want more attacking players), Vidosic vs Ruka

meh

NB: another year to go though...Beuchamp may not come back from injury, others may be out of form etc.

Definite= Schwarzer, Emerton, Wilkshire, Neill, Spira, Chippers, Carney, Culina, Grella, Valeri, Cahill, Bresc, Kewell, Sterj, Kennedy, Macca
Leaving 5 outfield spots
 

Kareem

Well-Known Member
Jocwa08 said:
i was thinking bout jedi's spot in africa
with a squad of 23 with 3 keepers
four holding mids is alot to take leaving 16
for other positions, jedi is surely at the bottom
of Culina, Grella and Valeri. Think he will go or stay?
Jedi = only one of 4 capable of playing CB (good cover?)
either 3 CB + Jedi
or 4 CB, no Jedi

Otherwise on Jedi vs attacker, we definately need an attacker more than a defensive player!
 

midfielder

Well-Known Member
Jocwa08 said:
i was thinking bout jedi's spot in africa
with a squad of 23 with 3 keepers
four holding mids is alot to take leaving 16
for other positions, jedi is surely at the bottom
of Culina, Grella and Valeri. Think he will go or stay?

Jedi had a very average game against China.... and a average game against Bahrain ... and Wilkshire at a pinch if others are out could play there. I think Jedi is on the watch list.
 

bulldogmariner

Well-Known Member
Have you all forgotten about Craig Moore? Yes he is still available and will be first picked. PIm will take an experienced squad to South Africa and someone will need to perform out of their skins to change the 23 players heading to South Africa.

World Cup Squad How i see it
1. Schwarzer (GK) First Player Picked
2. Neill (C)
3. Moore- Leader
4. Cahill- Best Australian player in EPL
5. Culina- Quality player who can cover many positions
6. Coyne- Regular in squad
7. Emerton- Injuried but will be there if fully fit.
8. Wilkshire- Mr Dependable has been one of our best in the last 12 months
9. Viduka / Djite- Viduka if fully fit and mind ready to play otherwise Djite
10. Kewell- Harry will be there injury permitting
11. Chipperfield- Injury again the only way to stop him
12. Petkovic (GK)- Back up to Mark in goals
13. Grella- Part of the leadership group.
14. Sterjoski- Proved his value over the last month.
15. Jones (GK)- Will be fighting foe the bench warming spot.
16. Valeri- Provides good backup to Grella
17. McDonald- Proven goalscorer in Scotland heres hoping.
18. Kennedy- Jesus need i say more
19. Carney- Good back up on the left and we dont have many left footed players
20. Holman- Will be in squad provides great energy to games
21. Jedinak- Provides the imposing midfielder Australia need, another year in Europe
22. North- Plays right back and central valuable to team.
23. Bresicano- Creative player who just goes.

This is based on looking at the history of Pim's squads and who he uses on a regular bases.
 

Kareem

Well-Known Member
i actually did not forget bout Craig Moore
But I doubt whether to take him or not, if he gets the loan then fine...
but he will be 1 more year older...
 

Kareem

Well-Known Member
bulldogmariner said:
Have you all forgotten about Craig Moore? Yes he is still available and will be first picked. PIm will take an experienced squad to South Africa and someone will need to perform out of their skins to change the 23 players heading to South Africa.

World Cup Squad How i see it

3. Moore- Leader
6. Coyne- Regular in squad
9. Viduka / Djite- Viduka if fully fit and mind ready to play otherwise Djite
12. Petkovic (GK)- Back up to Mark in goals
20. Holman- Will be in squad provides great energy to games
21. Jedinak- Provides the imposing midfielder Australia need, another year in Europe
22. North- Plays right back and central valuable to team.
Moore- i didnt forget (thougth for a 2nd, then said no)- but then i frogot to put him on my players to watch list :p go figure

Coyne- forgot about him completely- good choice (havent seen him play much, but surely better than milligan + north ;))(especially from what i hear)

Viduka- The more I look at our striking stocks, the better Viduka looks. Wouldnt put him in my starting 11- but he is better than Djite...who knows in 1 year time. There is then also PRINCIPLE- he doesnt deserve to play
        Look at Egypts view- No Mido, he is banned from NT setup, Egypt are going pretty good still (although a bit light on goals admittedly, but thats a typical egyptian thing IMO :p)

Djite- No. 1-2 years too soon for him I am afraid

Petkovic- I personally dont think so...but who knows? But hasnt Jones been battling with Frederici?

Holman- if between him and Carle, Carle is my choice, but I agree that Pim looks like he would pick Holman over Carle

Jedi- sadly not required, especially with that many CB's, and DM's (NB: he is not the best CB, but his ability to cover that position is useful)

North- would rather Beauchamp- i think Beauchamp- Bias? I think (hope) Pim will take Meggsy
 

bulldogmariner

Well-Known Member
Petkovic is the Australian Number 2 keeper and has been on the bench for all World Cup qualifiers so surely he will be going to the World Cup. Jones and Federici will be fighting it out for the bench warming job.
The way I chose my squad was going through the qualification process and looking at line ups that Pim has used and then I added Brett Emerton.
Craig Moore will go and the only reason he did not play in these last 3 matches was due to the fact the A-League finished in Feb and he hasnt played since. Craig has already stated he will go on loan for 3 months after the A-League season. Adelaide or Melbourne would do well to pick him up.
Beauchamp is out of favour and not playing regular football and Coyne has been preferred.
North has been in all of Pim's squads.
Garcia would be the only option to add to the squad and for mine that would be at the expense of Jedinak. But Jedinak has been part of nearly all of Pim's squad whilst Garcia has not.
There is no way Nick Carle will go to the World Cup in front of Holman. Brett has featured in all of Pim's squads and even though a lot of people dont like him as a player Pim does and he is the one that matters. Holman is a great squad player and will add impact off bench.
 

pjennings

Well-Known Member
bulldogmariner said:
Have you all forgotten about Craig Moore? Yes he is still available and will be first picked. PIm will take an experienced squad to South Africa and someone will need to perform out of their skins to change the 23 players heading to South Africa.


This is based on looking at the history of Pim's squads and who he uses on a regular bases.

My team was very similar and based on the same premise. I think we differ on two - I have Federici for Jones who looks like he might struggle for game time this year.The second is Carle for Holman - he had a good game last week and with more opporunities in the next year I think he will push Holman out. 
 

scottmac

Suspended
pjennings said:
he had a good game last week and with more opporunities in the next year I think he will push Holman out.  

He wont get more opportunities, the only reason he started was because Kewell was on a card Bresc was at home, Emerton was injured etc etc etc. He is creative but he is too much of a risk. Waste of a bench spot at the world cup IMO
 

pjennings

Well-Known Member
Pim is looking at doubling up on each position. Carle is not competing against Bresciano or Emerton who will be primarily on the right.

Carle will be the backup for Timmy at CAM

        Schwarzer/Federici/Pektovic

Emerton/Wilkshire Neill/North Moore/Coyne Chipperfield/Carney

          Grella/Jedinak Culina/Valeri

      Cahill/Carle

Bresciano/Sterjovski Kewell/McDonald

      Viduka/Kennedy

If you are looking for width Sterj and Kewell would be first choice in those positions. More often than not we will play slightly unbalanced with Kewell stretching on one wing and Bresc cutting in on the right.

 
 

marinermick

Well-Known Member
pjennings said:
Pim is looking at doubling up on each position. Carle is not competing against Bresciano or Emerton who will be primarily on the right.

Carle will be the backup for Timmy at CAM

        Schwarzer/Federici/Pektovic

Emerton/Wilkshire Neill/North Moore/Coyne Chipperfield/Carney

          Grella/Jedinak Culina/Valeri

       Cahill/Carle

Bresciano/Sterjovski Kewell/McDonald

       Viduka/Kennedy

If you are looking for width Sterj and Kewell would be first choice in those positions. More often than not we will play slightly unbalanced with Kewell stretching on one wing and Bresc cutting in on the right.

  

if all fit that would be the most likely squad

however i suspect that garcia will be the double up for cahill, not carle
 

Jesus

Jesus
IMHO the squad will pick itself this year. Apart from the big names, assuming no injuries, at least half the squad is a chance toeither be relegated to the bench or replaced if others have a better year
 

tuftman

Well-Known Member
marinermick said:
pjennings said:
Pim is looking at doubling up on each position. Carle is not competing against Bresciano or Emerton who will be primarily on the right.

Carle will be the backup for Timmy at CAM

        Schwarzer/Federici/Pektovic

Emerton/Wilkshire Neill/North Moore/Coyne Chipperfield/Carney

          Grella/Jedinak Culina/Valeri

       Cahill/Carle

Bresciano/Sterjovski Kewell/McDonald

       Viduka/Kennedy

If you are looking for width Sterj and Kewell would be first choice in those positions. More often than not we will play slightly unbalanced with Kewell stretching on one wing and Bresc cutting in on the right.

  

if all fit that would be the most likely squad

however i suspect that garcia will be the double up for cahill, not carle


Yeah that looks about right, I'd say that with Bresciano on the right, whoever plays at Right Back will be given a license to really go forward, as Marco likes to cut inside a lot, and a wingback type player still allows for width
 

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