RBB AT IT AGAIN (with some Tard help)

[BrisRecky]

once again the RBB or a portion thereof have gone to melbourne and got stuck in again...ironic thats its the FFA teams fans that are causing all the ruckus..NOW...its not fair to Poppa, but does the club get stripped of points and the active support locked out for a month or so OR what...its obvious Gallop had to do something, before his pets fans kill someone

 

[true believer]

i'd like to know the real story before throwing stones . I do think the flare throwing shite should be dealt with.
over to you RBB

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Don't know who started the brawls before the match, but both lots were involved and happy to keep it going.
RBB brought the flares and crackers, and used them in the brawl and both inside and outside the stadium during the match.

Of course, they'll still whinge and whinge that #yolo#passionisnotacrime#swag

And if it was any club other than FFA FC something would be done about it.

Disgraceful. Same shit from the same so-called fans, over and over again.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

This from the RBB facebook page demonstrates pretty clearly everything that's wrong with this mob - and why they'll never do anything themselves to weed out this element

 

[sydmariner]

This from the RBB facebook page demonstrates pretty clearly everything that's wrong with this mob - and why they'll never do anything themselves to weed out this element

They'll always be number 4 in nsw

 

[pjennings]

Victory and WSW and to a lesser extent Newcastle seem to be the only clubs that make a point of making trouble.

All the clubs need to take a position on this but WSW as an FFA owned club really needs to lead the way.

As far as I am concerned it is really incumbent of Gallop as the ultimate owner, Gorman as the Chairman and Poppa as the manager to come out and say it is not acceptable. At the same time they have to make it clear to the broadcasters (Speed's fap fest is disturbing) that the football is what people want to watch not crowd shots of self-absorbed try-hards. I see enough of that with my teenagers.

 

[VicMariner]

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/...victory-over-fan-violence-20140103-308h4.html

"Football Federation Australia has announced it will strip the Western Sydney Wanderers and Melbourne Victory of three competition points should their fans misbehave again this season."

FFA should deduct points now. Zero tolerance.
The fact the FFA are even thinking about points reduction in the HAL means this has gone too far.
F**k these clowns who want to make our league like Europe 20/30 years ago. Ban them, fine them, crush this rubbish now. "From little things big things grow".

 

[dibo]

Suspended sentence is the right idea. Shot across the bows, but don't have the club punished immediately and without warning for the actions of a minority of f**kwits.

If it happens again, they've no cause for complaint.

 

[BrisRecky]

I tweeted the FFA and asked them if they are waiting for someone to die before they stop this bullshit suspended sentence fkn crap

 

[dibo]

Yeah, because that's both a well constructed argument and helpful.

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Suspended sentence is the harshest action they've taken in 7 years.
Of course, historically the FFA likes to ignore repeated fan problems. I remember several years ago when Jets fans would throw coins at players at every match, FFA didn't care - any other league would've made a huge issue out of it.

Perhaps the FFA are so stubborn in trying to avoid the problems of the NSL and the NSW PL that they choose to bury their head in the sand everytime there are problems. The fact that the same clubs have gotten into the media for the wrong reasons so many times is proof of that.

Of course, it could still be an idle threat from the FFA. I mean, the Wanderers fans aren't capable of going to a match without ripping a flare - the RBB actively encourage it. 'No Pyro, No Party' is a motto all over their facebook page.
So will the next ripped flare cost the club 3 points? Will they need 5 at a match? Or is it the next flare outside the stadium?

On one hand, FFA's words sound harsh. On the other hand, they're also quite meaningless, given the favouritism the FFA always gives certain clubs.

I have a suspicion that the FFA will push anything they can under the carpet and the ONLY reason they might potentially follow through on their threat is if the media makes a big deal out of another incident.

I don't think the FFA actually care about the problems at all; what seems to be far, far more important as that somebody thought to themselves 'shit, the media are all over this. Guess we better look like we're doing something'

 

[BrisRecky]

apologies...but, knowing one of the kids who got king hit (daniel christie) and nearly killed and being royally pissed off at the judicial sytem in general ( cousin killed by a serial drink driver who only ended up doing 14 months)...the soft approach to acts of violence doesnt work for me any more...so excuse my rant

 

[sydmariner]

I tweeted the FFA and asked them if they are waiting for someone to die before they stop this bullshit suspended sentence fkn crap

 

[sydmariner]

Suspended sentence is the harshest action they've taken in 7 years.
Of course, historically the FFA likes to ignore repeated fan problems. I remember several years ago when Jets fans would throw coins at players at every match, FFA didn't care - any other league would've made a huge issue out of it.

Perhaps the FFA are so stubborn in trying to avoid the problems of the NSL and the NSW PL that they choose to bury their head in the sand everytime there are problems. The fact that the same clubs have gotten into the media for the wrong reasons so many times is proof of that.

Of course, it could still be an idle threat from the FFA. I mean, the Wanderers fans aren't capable of going to a match without ripping a flare - the RBB actively encourage it. 'No Pyro, No Party' is a motto all over their facebook page.
So will the next ripped flare cost the club 3 points? Will they need 5 at a match? Or is it the next flare outside the stadium?

On one hand, FFA's words sound harsh. On the other hand, they're also quite meaningless, given the favouritism the FFA always gives certain clubs.

I have a suspicion that the FFA will push anything they can under the carpet and the ONLY reason they might potentially follow through on their threat is if the media makes a big deal out of another incident.

I don't think the FFA actually care about the problems at all; what seems to be far, far more important as that somebody thought to themselves 'shit, the media are all over this. Guess we better look like we're doing something'

the RBB never set off any flares last time we played them this season

 

[sydmariner]

apologies...but, knowing one of the kids who got king hit (daniel christie) and nearly killed and being royally pissed off at the judicial sytem in general ( cousin killed by a serial drink driver who only ended up doing 14 months)...the soft approach to acts of violence doesnt work for me any more...so excuse my rant[/quote

 

[eenfish]

As much as I would love to see Victory and Wanderers hit with 3 point penalties, I really don't think the teams themselves should be punished by people acting at venue away from the ground before the game had even opened its gates. But that is just my opinion, and I can understand the argument for it.

Further more, I think the type of violence displayed here by these groups of fans is noticeably different from the type of "passion is not a crime" "violence" that is related to the increased police and security crack downs on RBB and North Terrace active support. Flares and jumping on chairs until they break, that sort of thing, is dangerous in its own way but it isn't on the same level as starting a small-scale riot. These are groups of fans doing exactly what the police were warning everyone would happen and that the RBB and NT repeatedly said won't happen. This type of violence isn't the same as "X amount of people removed from the premises of the SCG", this is a full-scale brawl.

I'm not a huge fan of police interfering in footballing matters (too many stories from abroad of police stalking and hunting down football fans for standing in active support sections where a flare was thrown or a chair broken, and intimidating people into submission despite not doing anything wrong), but I think this should be a police issue where the police use all those gadgets and wizardry they use to track down criminals and track down these guys and make an example of them. But don't punish the clubs. And don't think it is the same as flares and broken seats.

 

[sydmariner]

I heard somewhere that the RBB & NT's motto is "No pyro no party"

 

[Capn Gus Bloodbeard]

Yep, hop on their facebook page and read through the comments (you may need too translate from 'retard' into English). 'No pyro no party' is thrown around a lot.
It's not stated by the RBB FB admin - but he/she/they do actively encourage flare use and general full 'ard-ness, and belittle anybody who comes on there with concerns (such as how frightening flares and multiple loud crackers can be to young children).

That's where the problem is - the RBB actually promote this illegal behaviour. Most other groups would get right up idiots like that on their fb page. The RBB promote illegal activity, whereas most others self police.

 

[sydmariner]

Yep, hop on their facebook page and read through the comments (you may need too translate from 'retard' into English). 'No pyro no party' is thrown around a lot.
It's not stated by the RBB FB admin - but he/she/they do actively encourage flare use and general full 'ard-ness, and belittle anybody who comes on there with concerns (such as how frightening flares and multiple loud crackers can be to young children).

That's where the problem is - the RBB actually promote this illegal behaviour. Most other groups would get right up idiots like that on their fb page. The RBB promote illegal activity, whereas most others self police.

So basically they're just like a vigilante mob

 

[dibo]

No. Go look up vigilante.