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More foster forgetfulness

Jesus

Jesus
CRAIG FOSTER
February 21, 2010

The symmetry of the A-League awards could hardly have been more perfect, a mirror image of Australian football as it stands.

Carlos Hernandez was a worthy winner of the Johnny Warren Medal, but it was the announcement of coach of the year, Melbourne Victory's Ernie Merrick, that took many by surprise. To my mind, however, even this was perfectly fitting.

Vitezslav Lavicka comes to a new country, inherits a squad not of his making that missed the finals last year, one considerably weaker than that of both the Victory and Gold Coast, speaks scant English, has not worked with Australian players before, and yet proceeds to win the Premiers' Plate. And Merrick is coach of the year.

Ridiculous. Until we ask who voted for the award. The answer? The A-League coaches.

Now it makes perfect sense, because none of them understands the football of Lavicka, nor the way he works. The A-League coaches voted for another who represents what they see as coaching. Recruit well, manage the group, select the team, change when necessary. It is coaching by personnel. Whoever has the best players, wins - like a high-stakes game of Fantasy Football.

Lavicka coaches by system. Educate the players, work daily on the principles of a system of play, expect the team to express the work done in matches, and fix problem areas where the message is not getting through. This is modern football; coaching by personnel went out in the '50s.

A good example would be the current Real Madrid, or the former ''Galacticos'' who, despite having a fantastic array of stars, cannot win unless they are also a highly organised, and automated, team. This is why they need Manuel Pellegrini, not a salesman or media coach. Every player must react to every situation, in tandem with the group, otherwise weaknesses are exposed.

Australian coaches send a team out with a basic plan, and when it doesn't work, they turn to the media to justify their roles.

Newcastle's Branko Culina, who clearly could not interpret Lavicka's football and publicly questioned the Czech after losing to Sydney FC, recently talked about the limited squads and lack of player motivation, and the Roar's Ange Postecoglou bemoaned a lack of experience after losing to Perth, and threatened his rookie group with their toughest pre-season ever.

Translation: it's not my fault, it's the players - they're just not ''up for it'' enough.

Gold Coast coach Miron Bleiberg recruited well and let Jason Culina run the team. ''Miron lets me do what I want,'' said Jason. Try that in European football, where every single role, at every precise moment on the field, is defined and coached, and the player is expected to deliver to the team system, because a disorganised team is very quickly exposed. Here, they very nearly win the title.

And all the while, Lavicka nursed an ageing Steve Corica through the year, got the best from John Aloisi by forming a team around him, not expecting him to work miracles, and produced the best season yet from Simon Colosimo, Alex Brosque and Stuart Musialik, all without a single excuse being necessary.

No players blamed, no moaning in the press - total public protection of his players, a humility rare in our coaching ranks where everyone tries to coach through the press, not on the training ground, and where egos overshadow methodology.

If Lavicka had a 19-goal-a-season striker, he would have won the league by 20 points. If he had the Victory, at least by 15, the Gold Coast by the same, the Jets would have pushed for the title, so too the Roar.

This is the difference between system and personnel, and to my mind, although it took five seasons and should have happened in one, the heartening news is that our league has now taken a major step forward, and the age of media coaches, and success by personnel, is dead at last.

In our recent history, a team with enough talent wins, because no one was organised enough to expose the others - the only exception being Zoran Matic at Adelaide City in the NSL, who was decades ahead of local A-League coaches around today.

I did say there was perfect symmetry here, and it lies in the most important award of the season. Lavicka is set to be named as coach when the players' association announces its A-League team of the year this week.

Appropriate, don't you think? The coaches choose what they understand, but every player wants a coach like Lavicka, because they are tired of being given nothing but motivational talks and media blame.

Today's footballers want to be educated and supported with a sophisticated team system, and for this, we need more Lavickas.


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Saying branko is far less of a coach by pointing out a game where the jets were all over sydney and poor finishing stopped them romping home by a large margin.

Saying culina having free reign is something that would not happen anywhere in the world? eg Messi or ronaldinho or kaka being dictated by the coach?

Nursing Corica through the year? To have him f**ked 8 minutes into the biggest game of the year and retire pre finals? Is that really an achievement?

Getting the best out of aloisi by forming the team around him? What? Just like Craigs favourite pinata Mr Mckinna did 2 years ago?

If Larry had a 10 goal a season stiker?

Didnt aloisi end up with 10? And he played about half the season? Would make him pretty much a 19 goal a season striker.


I know i know, pulling apart Fozzies everything overseas is better than anything australian is a never ending and hardly worth task. But either he has no memory at all, he certainly has no coaching ability at all, or he would be coaching, or he just isnt trying anymore.
 

dibo

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tbf, this is one that i kinda agree with him on.

how merrick got it for taking essentially the same squad to a worse result while sydney went from out of the finals to premiers and welly went from no-hopers to serious dark horses i don't get.
 

elevated position

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Herbert was my choice. Only needed a few of those draws to be wins and it would have been interesting. Great strike team, effective midfield& great defense. Look at the low stats of keeper saves, the backrow did not let it through. If they make the GF my choice.
 

pjennings

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dibo said:
tbf, this is one that i kinda agree with him on.

how merrick got it for taking essentially the same squad to a worse result while sydney went from out of the finals to premiers and welly went from no-hopers to serious dark horses i don't get.

Fozzie is still a wanker - but Lavicka would have been my choice from Herbert and Ernie. Why am I thinking of Sesame St now?
 

marinermick

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Don't get the Fozzie love for Sydney and Lavicka.

They play a painfully boring brand of football that is structured and predictable. Very effective though.
 

FFC Mariner

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dibo said:
tbf, this is one that i kinda agree with him on.

how merrick got it for taking essentially the same squad to a worse result while sydney went from out of the finals to premiers and welly went from no-hopers to serious dark horses i don't get.

/this
 

Jaza_SFC

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marinermick said:
Don't get the Fozzie love for Sydney and Lavicka.

They play a painfully boring brand of football that is structured and predictable. Very effective though.

I tend to agree, but he has to be admired for taking a worse squad to a better result. I'd say MVFC and GCU have better squads than ours this year, and we're on par or at best marginally better than the other 3 teams in the finals.

We've had a 36yr old midfielder struggling to run the show all year, an absolute waste of talent DM in Musialik, and our most consistent forward does everything except consistently score. We won the Premiership based on defence, so it was painful at times, but it's a hell of an achievement given the goal-scoring/creating ability in the squad.
Despite the longer season, we only equalled our goals scored from Season One (35), and were 2, 6 and 7 goals ahead of other season's totals. This year Melbourne scored 47 goals, last year 39. Lavicka has made an inferior side so hard to score against that we were able to scrap to a title. Big achievement IMO.
 

marinermick

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Jaza_SFC said:
marinermick said:
Don't get the Fozzie love for Sydney and Lavicka.

They play a painfully boring brand of football that is structured and predictable. Very effective though.

I tend to agree, but he has to be admired for taking a worse squad to a better result. I'd say MVFC and GCU have better squads than ours this year, and we're on par or at best marginally better than the other 3 teams in the finals.

We've had a 36yr old midfielder struggling to run the show all year, an absolute waste of talent DM in Musialik, and our most consistent forward does everything except consistently score. We won the Premiership based on defence, so it was painful at times, but it's a hell of an achievement given the goal-scoring/creating ability in the squad.
Despite the longer season, we only equalled our goals scored from Season One (35), and were 2, 6 and 7 goals ahead of other season's totals. This year Melbourne scored 47 goals, last year 39. Lavicka has made an inferior side so hard to score against that we were able to scrap to a title. Big achievement IMO.

Don't argue that he deserved coach of the year with the only other contender being Herbet. Just perplexed on Fozzie's about face on this one.
 

Jaza_SFC

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It's entirely predictable. We could've signed the exact same players, with the exact same style, and the exact same result ... And if it was an English coach he'd be berating us for our lack of goals, lack of overall enterprise, and starting every game with 4 defenders and 2 DMs. But Lavicka of course is Czech, and we're owned by a Russian who was involved with a UEFA Cup Winning team, so no matter what happens we'll be safe from his articles for a while now. In the event we do somehow cock it up next year, he'll find plenty of excuses for Lavicka. (Note: We're only going to be better next year)

What a tosspot.
 

midfielder

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This is just another angle for Fozie and his technical rants... TBH the guy should be sent to a farm to quieten down a tad ... he needs a bex a cup of tean and a good lie down...
 

Forum Phoenix

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Good thread. Great posts Jazza.

I think Lavicka deserved it over Merrick though he and Herbert have done a great job also I thought.

I was impressed since I saw how well organised SFC looked in the pre season and they have maintained it throughout by and large. The attitude noticeably seemed to shift with the players and around the club and I have loved his humility and honesty... absolute chalk and cheese with Kossie.

For the record, I actually don't think Lavicka's brand of football or system was boring... I just think they lacked a couple of players stepping up and banging in some more goals as Jazza's stats testify. Otherwise the only way to be more interesting would have been to leak more goals... preferrably against us  ;)
 

Jerem

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Forum Phoenix said:
Good thread. Great posts Jazza.

I think Lavicka deserved it over Merrick though he and Herbert have done a great job also I thought.

I was impressed since I saw how well organised SFC looked in the pre season and they have maintained it throughout by and large. The attitude noticeably seemed to shift with the players and around the club and I have loved his humility and honesty... absolute chalk and cheese with Kossie.

For the record, I actually don't think Lavicka's brand of football or system was boring... I just think they lacked a couple of players stepping up and banging in some more goals as Jazza's stats testify. Otherwise the only way to be more interesting would have been to leak more goals... preferrably against us  ;)

his humility could just be a case of broken english, either way i never saw him break his temper, i tink herbert should a done it takin the nix to the finals while trying to keep a fit energised national team and beating bahrain to the WC is not a bad season in anyones books!

nix melbourne grand final by the looks of things too WOOP!!!
 

Harsulas_SFC

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Jerome said:
Forum Phoenix said:
Good thread. Great posts Jazza.

I think Lavicka deserved it over Merrick though he and Herbert have done a great job also I thought.

I was impressed since I saw how well organised SFC looked in the pre season and they have maintained it throughout by and large. The attitude noticeably seemed to shift with the players and around the club and I have loved his humility and honesty... absolute chalk and cheese with Kossie.

For the record, I actually don't think Lavicka's brand of football or system was boring... I just think they lacked a couple of players stepping up and banging in some more goals as Jazza's stats testify. Otherwise the only way to be more interesting would have been to leak more goals... preferrably against us  ;)

his humility could just be a case of broken english, either way i never saw him break his temper, .....

It appears to be genuine, he talks to anyone who wants to chat anywhere, he makes a point of saying at least hallo to every fan who shows up at training (after the session), he even knows most of the regulars names, and their kids names.  He happily speaks to and signs things for fans who recognise him in the street.... he won't hear of taking compliments from people, he always turns turns it around and says 'it is you people who should be thanked, we are nothing without you'.  Truly remarkable guy.
 

Jerem

Well-Known Member
Harsulas_SFC said:
Jerome said:
Forum Phoenix said:
Good thread. Great posts Jazza.

I think Lavicka deserved it over Merrick though he and Herbert have done a great job also I thought.

I was impressed since I saw how well organised SFC looked in the pre season and they have maintained it throughout by and large. The attitude noticeably seemed to shift with the players and around the club and I have loved his humility and honesty... absolute chalk and cheese with Kossie.

For the record, I actually don't think Lavicka's brand of football or system was boring... I just think they lacked a couple of players stepping up and banging in some more goals as Jazza's stats testify. Otherwise the only way to be more interesting would have been to leak more goals... preferrably against us  ;)

his humility could just be a case of broken english, either way i never saw him break his temper, .....

It appears to be genuine, he talks to anyone who wants to chat anywhere, he makes a point of saying at least hallo to every fan who shows up at training (after the session), he even knows most of the regulars names, and their kids names.  He happily speaks to and signs things for fans who recognise him in the street.... he won't hear of taking compliments from people, he always turns turns it around and says 'it is you people who should be thanked, we are nothing without you'.  Truly remarkable guy.

quite
 

marinermick

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FFC Mariner said:
Sounds like Lawrie

Who has the runs on the board over time.

The Graham Arnold interviews so far have been very interesting. He has gone to big lengths to talk about how good the fans are up here. It is apparent that he knows what fans think about him. He would also know that many Mariners' supporters were also Northern Spirit supporters.

It is good that he recognises that but the proof will be over time, especially if he starts to cop some criticism. Lawrie has always handled criticism with grace and was always willing to openly discuss any gripe.

Chatting to a local journalist who interviewed Graham Arnold last week (not our station) and he mentioned how dry and flat that interview was. He has big shoes to fill in terms of media handling and PR but at least he has made a decent start.
 

Forum Phoenix

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Harsulas_SFC said:
Jerome said:
Forum Phoenix said:
Good thread. Great posts Jazza.

I think Lavicka deserved it over Merrick though he and Herbert have done a great job also I thought.

I was impressed since I saw how well organised SFC looked in the pre season and they have maintained it throughout by and large. The attitude noticeably seemed to shift with the players and around the club and I have loved his humility and honesty... absolute chalk and cheese with Kossie.

For the record, I actually don't think Lavicka's brand of football or system was boring... I just think they lacked a couple of players stepping up and banging in some more goals as Jazza's stats testify. Otherwise the only way to be more interesting would have been to leak more goals... preferrably against us  ;)

his humility could just be a case of broken english, either way i never saw him break his temper, .....

It appears to be genuine, he talks to anyone who wants to chat anywhere, he makes a point of saying at least hallo to every fan who shows up at training (after the session), he even knows most of the regulars names, and their kids names.  He happily speaks to and signs things for fans who recognise him in the street.... he won't hear of taking compliments from people, he always turns turns it around and says 'it is you people who should be thanked, we are nothing without you'.  Truly remarkable guy.

Doesn't surprise me. Good to hear. Coaches like that area great addition to ors or any league.
 

midfielder

Well-Known Member
Forum Phoenix said:
Harsulas_SFC said:
Jerome said:
Forum Phoenix said:
Good thread. Great posts Jazza.

I think Lavicka deserved it over Merrick though he and Herbert have done a great job also I thought.

I was impressed since I saw how well organised SFC looked in the pre season and they have maintained it throughout by and large. The attitude noticeably seemed to shift with the players and around the club and I have loved his humility and honesty... absolute chalk and cheese with Kossie.

For the record, I actually don't think Lavicka's brand of football or system was boring... I just think they lacked a couple of players stepping up and banging in some more goals as Jazza's stats testify. Otherwise the only way to be more interesting would have been to leak more goals... preferrably against us  ;)

his humility could just be a case of broken english, either way i never saw him break his temper, .....

It appears to be genuine, he talks to anyone who wants to chat anywhere, he makes a point of saying at least hallo to every fan who shows up at training (after the session), he even knows most of the regulars names, and their kids names.  He happily speaks to and signs things for fans who recognise him in the street.... he won't hear of taking compliments from people, he always turns turns it around and says 'it is you people who should be thanked, we are nothing without you'.  Truly remarkable guy.

Doesn't surprise me. Good to hear. Coaches like that area great addition to ors or any league.

Agree a great asset ....

On the GA media ... spin / hype / just cause you talk the talk can you walk the walk / GA will be under huge pressure he is being allowed to make between 8 & 10 changes to the squad...meaning I guess he will have no honey moon period ... so far he has done everything right and I am prepared to give the clubs management the benefit of the doubt that he may have changed ... but he better not fail as the knives will come out quickly ...
 

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