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Mariners vs Vissel Kobe 26 Nov ACL Elite

Meerkat

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We did okay against the current J1 champions, J League leaders, ACL leaders and the Emperors Cup winners. We started slow but are building, we have a thin squad and a number of injuries. Plenty of time for better things to come in the ALM.
I kinda got the feeling they didn’t expect much from us and subsequently found themselves dropping to our level in parts. I don’t think this was their best effort or showing.

That said, i absolutely thought we would get smashed. So there is that.

Hard to be super optimistic when we have such piss poor defending and still have starting strikers who absolutely can’t strike. The goals are going to be few and far between and when we can’t adequately defend, that leaves us ripe for the picking.

Anyhow. Ce La vie. Expectations are very minimal at this point so the disappointment is getting easier to take.
 

Wombat

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Had nowhere near the minutes Paull has and is IMO better than Paull at the same minutes
Same same. Both very flawed and both very raw. Paull is better from what i have seen. There is a reason they are both at the Mariners.....for every Traintis we pick up there will be 5 or 6 failures.
Both could make it but both are less than solid so far.
 

priorpeter

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I kinda got the feeling they didn’t expect much from us and subsequently found themselves dropping to our level in parts. I don’t think this was their best effort or showing.

That said, i absolutely thought we would get smashed. So there is that.

Hard to be super optimistic when we have such piss poor defending and still have starting strikers who absolutely can’t strike. The goals are going to be few and far between and when we can’t adequately defend, that leaves us ripe for the picking.

Anyhow. Ce La vie. Expectations are very minimal at this point so the disappointment is getting easier to take.
So we were able to drag the top Japanese side down to our level? Sounds good to me.

Scoring 2 goals against a defence which had (proudly, very proudly) only conceded 1 prior seems ok.

We’ll be fine. Tonight sucks, but we move.
 

Wombat

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Kaltak has to be tight there. You can't sweep in the box. He spends a lot of time not marking anyone. Paull's man was the one he stepped out to.
You can sweep in the box but only if your other team mates are fully in synch and picking up every danger. You have to be the conductor. Not one player in our team is a conductor!
 

capauau

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You can sweep in the box but only if your other team mates are fully in synch and picking up every danger. You have to be the conductor. Not one player in our team is a conductor!
Kaltak is too busy helping Paull and Maraugis positional play and running the team
The last 2 seasons he had Triantis /Hall and Farrell in the backline
That's a huge difference in quality!!
 

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