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Mariners squad HAL 10 ~ 2014/15

nearlyyellow

nearlyyellow

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Wombat said:
He was very rough. But he had pace and could beat a player...exactly what you want from a winger.
I would love to hear what he thinks but I bet it wouldn't be complementary.....so we will probably not get to hear why he was so keen to skip.
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He was tough, very in your face, when he first came here. IMHO he showed great promise but the rest of the team hadn't had time enough to get used to his style. I am sure that more game time would have overcome that lack of familiarity.
However, the good oil tells me that after his wife had their baby he was thrown into turmoil because she was unable to get a visa to join him here in Australia. Totally understandable, how would you feel if you were unable to see your new family for 6 months or so? He collapsed in a heap over it and wanted to return to Sveden ja. to be a few hours flight time away from his family, not on the other side of the world.
 
sydmariner

sydmariner

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nearlyyellow said:
He was tough, very in your face, when he first came here. IMHO he showed great promise but the rest of the team hadn't had time enough to get used to his style. I am sure that more game time would have overcome that lack of familiarity.
However, the good oil tells me that after his wife had their baby he was thrown into turmoil because she was unable to get a visa to join him here in Australia. Totally understandable, how would you feel if you were unable to see your new family for 6 months or so? He collapsed in a heap over it and wanted to return to Sveden ja. to be a few hours flight time away from his family, not on the other side of the world.
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centrelink fc had the same problem with shinji that's why he left
 
nearlyyellow

nearlyyellow

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Other coaches have recognized that tough men like Mane are needed in HAL. I guess this is OK as long as we don't end up with a team of Kevin Muscats:. If that's the case we may as well follow Rugby. ;)
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Graham Arnold looking for tough signings to combat A-League physicality
Date December 19, 2014 - 8:01PM

  • Dominic Bossi
    Sports reporter
    (photo of GA deleted by nearlyyellow))
    Enforcer: Graham Arnold has decisions to make on recruits. Photo: Getty Images

    Sydney FC coach Graham Arnold is looking to sign tougher, stronger and more physical players in the January transfer window as a result of the bruising nature of A-League football.

    With three players already out for the season with serious knee injuries and another set to play Wellington Phoenix on Sunday with 10 stitches still in his forehead, Arnold revealed physical presence is becoming the main quality he's looking for in his potential injury replacement signings.

    The Sky Blues can sign up to three players to cover for the injured Ali Abbas, Nick Carle and Corey Gameiro and have two foreign player spots available. With plenty of options but limited funds within the A-League salary cap, Arnold will likely use at least one of those places on a player whose primary attribute is winning the physical battles on the field.

    "Maybe a couple of players coming in that can add a lot of physicality to our game instead of us just relying on quality," Arnold said. "No closer, getting phone calls and emails all the time. There are plenty of names being put forward but we only have a certain amount of money to spend on injury players and they're not cheap. I said, I want to bring quality to the club, if not I'd rather play Australian kids."

    Arnold's scouting criteria follows the 3-3 draw with Melbourne Victory in which Terry Antonis suffered a split forehead as a result of a flying elbow from Mark Milligan. The Victory captain did not receive a card for the action but was later slapped with a three-game ban. When asked if the suspension handed down from the match review panel was sufficient, Arnold said: "No comment."

    Sydney FC are enduring a horrid run of injuries, with the news that central defenders Sasa Ognenovski and Matt Jurman are unlikely to play again before the A-League break in January. The club still sits in fourth ahead of their match against the in-form Wellington Phoenix at Allianz Stadium on Sunday but Arnold says his side needs to learn how to cope with the increasing physicality of the competition, not just the ability.

    "I don't think I've had one ACL [anterior cruciate ligament injury] in 15 years of coaching let alone three ACLs in four weeks. I said after the game the other night that we got beat up against Melbourne Victory, physically. We have to probably toughen up ourselves and fight the fight. Technically, we have some fantastic players with football quality but with the way the A-League is going at the moment I think we have to muscle up more and be prepared to fight the fight," Arnold said.

    He was coy on the policing of A-League games and when asked if the referees need to play a greater role in ensuring player welfare, he said: "No comment."

    When asked whether he believes playing standards are suffering as a result of the physical standard of the league, Arnold again said: "No comment."
 
justafan

justafan

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Physicality, physicality, physicality !! FFS ! By nature our footballers are physically tough already. When it comes to playing football, I would even risk in saying that our players are in some cases "physically silly" . Throughout our unsuccessful football history, in this beautiful country of ours, we've had always prioritised physical before technically gifted good ball players. What have we achieved at international level with this mentality, with teams made up mostly of physical players ? NOTHING !! I won't deny that every team in the world have their physical tough and rugged players but they are a minority and only used in positions that need those sort of players. A player can be physical ( in the good sense of the word) by just being fit.
I disagree with GA. I believe that he's frustrated with the way the " physical silly " get away with it in the HAL but all he's doing if he goes ahead and adds more Sasa Ognenovskis type of players to the side is eliminating what we need abundance of in our game : TECHNICALLY GOOD PLAYERS. Players that will always make the difference in a football game :COMFORTABLE ON THE BALL PLAYERS. We need more Carruscas, Finklers, more like our very own CACERES, Broichs's, Antonis's. In the rest of the world, football is referred to as " the beautiful game". After so many years with JW as leader trying to improve the world's game here in Aussie, we're still struggling to get rid of that unique mentality that physicality will get you further.
 
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Big Al

Well-Known Member
Or he could ask questions of his fitness guru. Low blow

Gameiro I'm not sure but i don't think it was an A League game - just checked was for olyroos.
Abbas was but pretty much bad luck
Carle I thought had no one around him - Can't quite remember but it was as a late sub so maybe not warmed up properly. - Checked and he tackled Broxham with a dirty tackle with his leg out because he lost the ball. No ones fault but his own
So I think I'd run with I now coach a soft team not blame the league

Classic Arnie whinge
 
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Roy Law

Roy Law

Well-Known Member
nearlyyellow said:
Other coaches have recognized that tough men like Mane are needed in HAL. I guess this is OK as long as we don't end up with a team of Kevin Muscats:. If that's the case we may as well follow Rugby. ;)
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Graham Arnold looking for tough signings to combat A-League physicality
Date December 19, 2014 - 8:01PM

  • Dominic Bossi
    Sports reporter
    (photo of GA deleted by nearlyyellow))
    Enforcer: Graham Arnold has decisions to make on recruits. Photo: Getty Images

    Sydney FC coach Graham Arnold is looking to sign tougher, stronger and more physical players in the January transfer window as a result of the bruising nature of A-League football.

    With three players already out for the season with serious knee injuries and another set to play Wellington Phoenix on Sunday with 10 stitches still in his forehead, Arnold revealed physical presence is becoming the main quality he's looking for in his potential injury replacement signings.

    The Sky Blues can sign up to three players to cover for the injured Ali Abbas, Nick Carle and Corey Gameiro and have two foreign player spots available. With plenty of options but limited funds within the A-League salary cap, Arnold will likely use at least one of those places on a player whose primary attribute is winning the physical battles on the field.

    "Maybe a couple of players coming in that can add a lot of physicality to our game instead of us just relying on quality," Arnold said. "No closer, getting phone calls and emails all the time. There are plenty of names being put forward but we only have a certain amount of money to spend on injury players and they're not cheap. I said, I want to bring quality to the club, if not I'd rather play Australian kids."

    Arnold's scouting criteria follows the 3-3 draw with Melbourne Victory in which Terry Antonis suffered a split forehead as a result of a flying elbow from Mark Milligan. The Victory captain did not receive a card for the action but was later slapped with a three-game ban. When asked if the suspension handed down from the match review panel was sufficient, Arnold said: "No comment."

    Sydney FC are enduring a horrid run of injuries, with the news that central defenders Sasa Ognenovski and Matt Jurman are unlikely to play again before the A-League break in January. The club still sits in fourth ahead of their match against the in-form Wellington Phoenix at Allianz Stadium on Sunday but Arnold says his side needs to learn how to cope with the increasing physicality of the competition, not just the ability.

    "I don't think I've had one ACL [anterior cruciate ligament injury] in 15 years of coaching let alone three ACLs in four weeks. I said after the game the other night that we got beat up against Melbourne Victory, physically. We have to probably toughen up ourselves and fight the fight. Technically, we have some fantastic players with football quality but with the way the A-League is going at the moment I think we have to muscle up more and be prepared to fight the fight," Arnold said.

    He was coy on the policing of A-League games and when asked if the referees need to play a greater role in ensuring player welfare, he said: "No comment."

    When asked whether he believes playing standards are suffering as a result of the physical standard of the league, Arnold again said: "No comment."
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Pah! Physicality! Pah! I am over here in England, about to go and see AFC Wimbledon play in League 2. League 2 is physical football not that tippy tappy play out from the back high pressing no fear of relegation stuff in the A League. It is life and death down here, week in, week out; no prisoners taken. Arnie, give me a break!
 
sydmariner

sydmariner

Well-Known Member
Roy Law said:
Pah! Physicality! Pah! I am over here in England, about to go and see AFC Wimbledon play in League 2. League 2 is physical football not that tippy tappy play out from the back high pressing no fear of relegation stuff in the A League. It is life and death down here, week in, week out; no prisoners taken. Arnie, give me a break!
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do they still have the "crazy gang":pirashoot:
 
Gratis

Gratis

Well-Known Member
Central Coast Mariners may have found
the next Tomi Rogic after the club
trialled Nike Academy product Dejan
Pandurevic.
The 17-year-old has a chance to earn his
first professional deal by joining the
Mariners during next month's transfer
window after falling into the club's arms
by a similar series of events as former
star Rogic.
Much like the Celtic man, Pandurevic
earned a move to Britain when he
was the only Australian player selected
from 75,000 aspirants to join the Nike
Academy in the West Midlands.
However, much like Rogic, he failed to
earn a British work permit, which
denied him a chance of signing with an
English club.
Central Coach Mariners coach Phil Moss.Photo:
Getty Images
Now back in Australia searching for a
club, the young forward is edging closer
to a deal with the Mariners after
impressing coach Phil Moss during his
first week training with the senior team.
Pandurevic is familiar with the
surroundings at the club's training base
in Tuggerah as he was part of their
youth team last season and could be
rewarded with a senior contract early
next month.
"Dejan Pandurevic, I've known since he
was a little kid," Moss said. "I worked
with him at Manly [United] and he's
certainly maturing into a wonderful
young man and a very, very talented
footballer. I got him in training this
week and we're having a look at him,
and he looked very good today, I must
say."
The youngster is primarily a winger or
an attacking midfielder, technically
strong, quick and a great finisher. While
different in style of play, he is of
Serbian descent, similar to Rogic, and
also failed to meet the criteria for a
work permit that would have enabled
him to sign with a club in Britain.
"I've been in touch with him all the way
through his Nike experience and I said to
him that if he does end up back here, I
want him to come in. I looked at him
today, I've got a lot of belief in him and
a lot of time for him and he'll train with
us for a couple of weeks now and we'll
make a decision soon," Moss said.
The Mariners host Brisbane Roar on
Saturday afternoon in what is looming
as a must-win game for Central Coast.
Not only are they in a nine-game winless
trough but the club is expecting a strong
crowd as part of a local campaign to
keep the club permanently in Gosford,
led by mayor and former coach Lawrie
McKinna.
After leaking four goals against Perth last
week, Moss said he may start veteran
stopper Eddie Bosnar in the heart of
defence to plug their leaky defence.
"He's a big chance," Moss said.

http://smh.com.au/sport/soccer/cent...r-central-coast-mariners-20141223-12czcs.html
 
Capt. Awesome

Capt. Awesome

Well-Known Member
GrA said:
Central Coast Mariners may have found
the next Tomi Rogic after the club
trialled Nike Academy product Dejan
Pandurevic.
The 17-year-old has a chance to earn his
first professional deal by joining the
Mariners during next month's transfer
window after falling into the club's arms
by a similar series of events as former
star Rogic.
Much like the Celtic man, Pandurevic
earned a move to Britain when he
was the only Australian player selected
from 75,000 aspirants to join the Nike
Academy in the West Midlands.
However, much like Rogic, he failed to
earn a British work permit, which
denied him a chance of signing with an
English club.
Central Coach Mariners coach Phil Moss.Photo:
Getty Images
Now back in Australia searching for a
club, the young forward is edging closer
to a deal with the Mariners after
impressing coach Phil Moss during his
first week training with the senior team.
Pandurevic is familiar with the
surroundings at the club's training base
in Tuggerah as he was part of their
youth team last season and could be
rewarded with a senior contract early
next month.
"Dejan Pandurevic, I've known since he
was a little kid," Moss said. "I worked
with him at Manly [United] and he's
certainly maturing into a wonderful
young man and a very, very talented
footballer. I got him in training this
week and we're having a look at him,
and he looked very good today, I must
say."
The youngster is primarily a winger or
an attacking midfielder, technically
strong, quick and a great finisher. While
different in style of play, he is of
Serbian descent, similar to Rogic, and
also failed to meet the criteria for a
work permit that would have enabled
him to sign with a club in Britain.
"I've been in touch with him all the way
through his Nike experience and I said to
him that if he does end up back here, I
want him to come in. I looked at him
today, I've got a lot of belief in him and
a lot of time for him and he'll train with
us for a couple of weeks now and we'll
make a decision soon," Moss said.
The Mariners host Brisbane Roar on
Saturday afternoon in what is looming
as a must-win game for Central Coast.
Not only are they in a nine-game winless
trough but the club is expecting a strong
crowd as part of a local campaign to
keep the club permanently in Gosford,
led by mayor and former coach Lawrie
McKinna.
After leaking four goals against Perth last
week, Moss said he may start veteran
stopper Eddie Bosnar in the heart of
defence to plug their leaky defence.
"He's a big chance," Moss said.

http://smh.com.au/sport/soccer/cent...r-central-coast-mariners-20141223-12czcs.html
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Very interesting. He looks like he could be a good prospect for the future however I think this signals that Moss doesn't really care how we go this year. He is planning for the future. We have the youngest squad already in the A-League. If this is meant to be a direct swap for Mane then I think he is playing the long game for a future sale for cash for the club. If he wanted to win this year he would have got an experienced striker.
 
nearlyyellow

nearlyyellow

Well-Known Member
Capt. Awesome said:
Very interesting. He looks like he could be a good prospect for the future however I think this signals that Moss doesn't really care how we go this year. He is planning for the future. We have the youngest squad already in the A-League. If this is meant to be a direct swap for Mane then I think he is playing the long game for a future sale for cash for the club. If he wanted to win this year he would have got an experienced striker.
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Pandurevic at 17 surely wouldn't come in under the adult salary cap, maybe as the Junior Marquee, if we wanted him badly enough? After Mane just how much cash would be left in the kitty for a genuine striker (which I think we all agree we need) is an unknown. Not much I bet! Hope they shop wisely.
I have said in previous posts that I remember reading that Moss is building on a 3 year plan, this being year 1, and we are only 11 games into it, so more may happen!
 
Roy Law

Roy Law

Well-Known Member
I think Moss quite simply does not want to miss out on a young talent, whether he is first team or NYL, who is already known to the club after playing NYL last year.
 
B

Big Al

Well-Known Member
Yep we have a good record with young talent so sign him up. Better yet its in a position we need.
Would he be direct competition to Kalick?
I think MC and Mossy have been quoted about a 3 year plan a few times and us being an Ajax type club. So makes seance to start again with a young core.
 
B

Big Al

Well-Known Member
Neil
Poscalario
Roux
Cacerass
Duke
L rose
Kalick

Is a pretty good young core. Now if we had the right coach to get the best out of them or better imports to assist them we could have a good looking team
 
nearlyyellow

nearlyyellow

Well-Known Member
Pandurevic? Whoa! Watch out! The big bad boogie might grab him!

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Sydney FC coach Graham Arnold to go for local talent if import options don't measure up
Date December 25, 2014 - 9:24PM


  • Football reporter
    View more articles from Sebastian Hassett

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    "Arnold has always been a savvy bargain hunter and his exceptional record of developing youth at the Central Coast Mariners is a model he won't shy away from replicating with the Sky Blues."

    http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/...-options-dont-measure-up-20141225-12djdt.html
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(I left the entirely flattering pic of GA in the quoted text. :innocent: )
 
M

mariner72

Well-Known Member
Who could the club attract on minimum wages to manage this crop of kids better and find some more? I can't see the club getting any decent experienced players in so surely need to find the best coach to work with the kids.
 
nearlyyellow

nearlyyellow

Well-Known Member
mariner72 said:
Who could the club attract on minimum wages to manage this crop of kids better and find some more? I can't see the club getting any decent experienced players in so surely need to find the best coach to work with the kids.
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Pardon? We have two well credentialed blokes at the head of our NYL team, Stu Jacobs and Damien Brown. I fail to see your point.
 
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