Mariners Squad 2024/2025 ALM and ACL Elite

[turbo]

We are being outbid on journeymen (Wales, Burgess).

That’s not necessarily a bad thing. Being in a cycle of paying overs rarely ends well. Perth are partly in the position they are in because of it and now they’ve outbid us for Wales. Time will tell if that was a good play or not.

 

[Corsair]

Being in a cycle of paying overs rarely ends well

Being in a perpetual cycle of unders is challenging too...

 

[bikinigirl]

Being in a perpetual cycle of unders is challenging too...

. because we then end up paying overs for someone not worth the unders

 

[turbo]

Being in a perpetual cycle of unders is challenging too...

We aren’t there yet at all.

 

[Ozhammer]

Lachie wanted a 2 year deal at the time, we only offered 1. City gave him 2 years, and as far as I’m aware it was on the same or just slightly above the salary we offered at the time. He just wanted some security. Dumb move by the decision makers back then.

100% I called Sean & Mulvey out on it at the time to their faces too.

 

[Stuartmcateer]

Lachie wanted a 2 year deal at the time, we only offered 1. City gave him 2 years, and as far as I’m aware it was on the same or just slightly above the salary we offered at the time. He just wanted some security. Dumb move by the decision makers back then.

It was 50/50. At the end of the day it's a choice with young players and I don't think it went that wrong.

At the time he had played stuff all games and was barely more than another buhajiar. Its not like he was tearing it up to make you want to jump at 2 years.

Its not like in 6 years in Melbourne he was a dominant attacking player. He scored 17 goals in 160 games His best season was 4 goals.

Maybe he is handy in the dark years but he doesn't make those teams that much better.

I don't see him getting in either the GF winning squad or the treble team 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[Corsair]

It was 50/50. At the end of the day it's a choice with young players and I don't think it went that wrong.

At the time he had played stuff all games and was barely more than another buhajiar. Its not like he was tearing it up to make you want to jump at 2 years.

Its not like in 6 years in Melbourne he was a dominant attacking player. He scored 17 goals in 160 games His best season was 4 goals.

Maybe he is handy in the dark years but he doesn't make those teams that much better.

I don't see him getting in either the GF winning squad or the treble team 🤷🏻‍♂️

Horse shit, the fans wanted him badly, it was a very unpopular decision. His goal stats mean nothing. Look at his assists. We need assists.

 

[Stuartmcateer]

Horse shit, the fans wanted him badly, it was a very unpopular decision. His goal stats mean nothing. Look at his assists. We need assists.

Well if the fans wanted it, obviously that is what should have happened.

Unpopular decisions are what football clubs make all the time.

We create chances - we need goals.

He isn't worth paying overs for now just as he wasn't worth paying overs for then.

 

[pjennings]

Well if the fans wanted it, obviously that is what should have happened.

Unpopular decisions are what football clubs make all the time.

We create chances - we need goals.

He isn't worth paying overs for now just as he wasn't worth paying overs for then.

I was disappointed when he left - simply because he was a Coastie. But the bolded comment is the important point. We paid overs for some poor footballers in our lean years. I'd rather we pay what they are worth and give our youth a chance.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Horse shit, the fans wanted him badly, it was a very unpopular decision. His goal stats mean nothing. Look at his assists. We need assists.

I know fans who didn't want him. Still don't.
As said earlier he barely makes the bench in the past 2 seasons and being better than Theo and Felatio is nothing to brag about.

 

[Corsair]

He isn't worth paying overs for now just as he wasn't worth paying overs for then.

What was the deal we offered him?

 

[Ozhammer]

It was 50/50. At the end of the day it's a choice with young players and I don't think it went that wrong.

At the time he had played stuff all games and was barely more than another buhajiar. Its not like he was tearing it up to make you want to jump at 2 years.

Its not like in 6 years in Melbourne he was a dominant attacking player. He scored 17 goals in 160 games His best season was 4 goals.

Maybe he is handy in the dark years but he doesn't make those teams that much better.

I don't see him getting in either the GF winning squad or the treble team 🤷🏻‍♂️

Sorry but Wales had done the hard yards playing for nickels and putting in community time on top of that, so he deserved two years on minimum wage imho, especially if the club was even remotely genuine about promoting our academy pathway.

 

[Corsair]

Wales scored on debut for Perth last night to make it 2-2 vs the scum...

 

[Stuartmcateer]

What was the deal we offered him?

I don't know what we offered him?

But he found it unacceptable. Both times.

He is not the player you go chasing to make sure you nail down at all costs.

 

[marinermick]

I don't know what we offered him?

But he found it unacceptable. Both times.

He is not the player you go chasing to make sure you nail down at all costs.

My understanding was that it was still not much more than minimum wage but he wanted the surety of at least two years. At the time it was not an unreasonable request.

 

[Stuartmcateer]

Sorry but Wales had done the hard yards playing for nickels and putting in community time on top of that, so he deserved two years on minimum wage imho, especially if the club was even remotely genuine about promoting our academy pathway.

I'm sorry? A 20 year old did the "hard yards" playing for nickels and dimes? He played 11 friggin games for us.

Isn't community time part of the deal? Or at least it used to be when they did club visits and came to junior presentation days and things.

 

[Stuartmcateer]

My understanding was that it was still not much more than minimum wage but he wanted the surety of at least two years. At the time it was not an unreasonable request.

But not unreasonable for the club to only want to offer 1 at the same time.

That's my point though, I'm not saying that he was asking stupid money, but he wasn't and still isn't the player that if the club has a limit in mind that they should be pushing to sign at all costs.

 

[marinermick]

But not unreasonable for the club to only want to offer 1 at the same time.

That's my point though, I'm not saying that he was asking stupid money, but he wasn't and still isn't the player that if the club has a limit in mind that they should be pushing to sign at all costs.

D’accord. Not unreasonable from the club either.

 

[FFC Mariner]

I'm sorry? A 20 year old did the "hard yards" playing for nickels and dimes? He played 11 friggin games for us.

Isn't community time part of the deal? Or at least it used to be when they did club visits and came to junior presentation days and things.

Whilst I'm not a fan he basically went through our youth system for expenses only.
Given how shit we were, there were players worse than him getting deals so 2 years then was fair.
Maybe the club (who saw him every day) didn't really think he was worth it?

 

[Stuartmcateer]

Whilst I'm not a fan he basically went through our youth system for expenses only.
Given how shit we were, there were players worse than him getting deals so 2 years then was fair.
Maybe the club (who saw him every day) didn't really think he was worth it?

You could apply that logic to any youth player that gets released or offered a short deal.. well he went through the youth system for expenses so we should automatically offer what he is looking for.

He's a mid level player - not horrible, not outstanding. And that's how he was then.

Its not like in that year he had a garang or irankunda vibe that you would automatically take the gamble on a longer contract.

He probably makes the team at the time slightly better. But that's all. He's not carrying players to push into the top 6 from the wooden spoon position.