FFC Mariner
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He has been badly let down again by his local management who did nothing to stop the rot
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Pirate Pete
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I thought it was due to fatigue too. However I've heard Monty on the radio say it was because we lacked concentration in the second half.
He said that about two games. Jests at home was one.
I like Monty but I'm glad he didn't end up as coach.
It was all of those factors.
Fitness, mental strength, poor structures that weren’t changed when the opposition changed theres or upt the anti.
I agree we didn’t have the players to go with the other teams when they started playing harder but we had no structure to suffocate them.
Mulvey is responsible for a lot of that and the players the rest
Fitness, mental strength, poor structures that weren’t changed when the opposition changed theres or upt the anti.
I agree we didn’t have the players to go with the other teams when they started playing harder but we had no structure to suffocate them.
Mulvey is responsible for a lot of that and the players the rest
bikinigirl
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. maybe ... but we didn't get the opportunity to interview him - and it didn't take much for him to admit he had not been following the league
. the fact that he underestimated the situation was obvious before he admitted it
style_cafe
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The lack of concentration in the second half is usually due to fatigue,which in turn, puts it back to the strength and conditioning coach.
If we didn`t have one early on we put ourselves under pressure from the getgo.
We need another Clarkey, a bloody decent preseason against good opposition and a good medical staff to go along with everything else...
Antlion
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Mariners desperate to recapture past magic
MARCH 13, 2019
There’s some old footage of Graham Arnold decked out in yellow and navy, addressing his Central Coast Mariners team at training and congratulating a teenage Tom Rogic and Mat Ryan on their Socceroos selection.
That was 2012, and the A-League’s smallest club was about to start a season that would yield a maiden championship to reward their recent Premiers’ Plates and grand final near-misses.
Back then the Mariners were a sporting anomaly, a community club that ran on the fumes of an oily rag and made destitute look damn fine.
Rogic, Ryan, Mile Jedinak and Trent Sainsbury would certainly like to think so given where they’ve ended up.
Throw in Alex Wilkinson, Mustafa Amini, Danny Vukovic and Bernie Ibini and a decent handful of our current and former Socceroos were custom made in Gosford.
“We had a group there that not only created an environment to become better players but also better people as well,” Ryan said this year.
Central Coast Mariners players (l-r) Pedj Bojic, Bernie Ibini, Mat Ryan and Anthony Caceres celebrate their season 2012/13 A-League title win with fans in Gosford. Picture: Getty Images
“Without that guidance there in the beginning I probably wouldn’t be where I am today.”
Six years later, a team once used to playing Asian Champions League is staring down the barrel of a third wooden spoon in four seasons.
The side once affectionately called the little club that could is now labelled the league’s proverbial graveyard, a basket case and blight on a competition struggling for eyeballs.
If new interim coach Alen Stajcic somehow plugs the sinking ship, starting in Saturday’s F3 derby, he’ll have pulled off a turnaround as remarkable as his own since his traumatic Matildas axing two months ago.
That Stajcic is even tasked with such a challenge paints a regrettable picture of the Mariners’ slide.
Interim Central Coast Mariners coach Alen Stajcic addresses the players at training on Friday ahead of Saturday’s F3 derby against Newcastle. Picture: Liam Driver
One that, based on recent evidence, won’t cease until the set-up starts to look more like it did in the good old days.
Those days were in full swing even before the Mariners even had a Centre of Excellence, when the team trained at any amateur park they could get their hands on.
Several anecdotes highlight how they got by on nothing more than scant resources and a bit of humour, including one featuring an inflatable goal with a hole in it and a staff member on air pumping duty just to get through the session.
In a sense, it’s all part of the identity that endeared it so irresistibly to the region’s people.
“We were always written off as we were with ‘small Central Coast’, as they used to call it,” Jedinak said this year.
Former Socceroos captain Mile Jedinak in action for the Central Coast Mariners.
“We fed off each other and wanted to do it for each other. We knew there was possibly a special journey to go on. That filtered down from the staff.”
At the time they included Arnold, inaugural coach Lawrie McKinna before him, assistant coach and then head coach Phil Moss, goalkeeping coach John Crawley and former player turned fitness coach Andrew Clark.
“When you look back to those days with Graham Arnold, he made it easy for us, he made us all look good to be honest,” said former defender Josh Rose.
“He really instilled the team discipline and unity, which on the coast is massive.
“It’s a small place so you need the boys sticking together, you need to fight for each other and be good mates, then you get the best out of each other.
“It’s very hard to repeat that in a team that doesn’t really have it.”
Socceroos star Tom Rogic during his Central Coast Mariners days.
McKinna’s work up the road with the resurgent Newcastle Jets underscores what a loss he was in terms of building community.
Critics searching for answers point the finger at Mike Charlesworth, the seeming common denominator who assumed majority ownserhip in 2013.
Before him, the Mariners had two coaches in nine years.
Since, it’s been a congaline of coaches and catalogue of catastrophes.
Aggregate the league table every season from the league’s inception until the 2013 grand final, and the Mariners are the best in the competition.
Socceroos coach Graham Arnold when he was in charge at the Mariners.
Do the same from the start of the 2013-14 season until now, and they’re dead last.
In 2015-16 Tony Walmsley embarked on a Charlesworth-mandated mission to thrill and conceded 70 goals en route to the table’s bottom.
The next season Paul Okon finished eighth with Walmsley’s squad and one signing of his own but walked away in frustration while in ninth, all the while operating without spending their full salary cap allowance.
Then title-winning mentor Mulvey got more funds, recruited 17 players and a Usain Bolt-flavoured sugar hit, before overseeing an 8-2 thrashing and getting the sack.
Saturday’s home humiliation by Wellington drew less than a quarter of their old average home crowds of up around nearly 16,000.
Charlesworth cannot be the complete story. Identity is too intangible a quality for that.
And with A-League hopefuls circling for a licence, his very presence could keeping the Mariners on the coast.
How it rediscovers the promised land is another question entirely.
Originally published as
https://outline.com/XXRA47
MARCH 13, 2019
There’s some old footage of Graham Arnold decked out in yellow and navy, addressing his Central Coast Mariners team at training and congratulating a teenage Tom Rogic and Mat Ryan on their Socceroos selection.
That was 2012, and the A-League’s smallest club was about to start a season that would yield a maiden championship to reward their recent Premiers’ Plates and grand final near-misses.
Back then the Mariners were a sporting anomaly, a community club that ran on the fumes of an oily rag and made destitute look damn fine.
Rogic, Ryan, Mile Jedinak and Trent Sainsbury would certainly like to think so given where they’ve ended up.
Throw in Alex Wilkinson, Mustafa Amini, Danny Vukovic and Bernie Ibini and a decent handful of our current and former Socceroos were custom made in Gosford.
“We had a group there that not only created an environment to become better players but also better people as well,” Ryan said this year.
Central Coast Mariners players (l-r) Pedj Bojic, Bernie Ibini, Mat Ryan and Anthony Caceres celebrate their season 2012/13 A-League title win with fans in Gosford. Picture: Getty Images
“Without that guidance there in the beginning I probably wouldn’t be where I am today.”
Six years later, a team once used to playing Asian Champions League is staring down the barrel of a third wooden spoon in four seasons.
The side once affectionately called the little club that could is now labelled the league’s proverbial graveyard, a basket case and blight on a competition struggling for eyeballs.
If new interim coach Alen Stajcic somehow plugs the sinking ship, starting in Saturday’s F3 derby, he’ll have pulled off a turnaround as remarkable as his own since his traumatic Matildas axing two months ago.
That Stajcic is even tasked with such a challenge paints a regrettable picture of the Mariners’ slide.
Interim Central Coast Mariners coach Alen Stajcic addresses the players at training on Friday ahead of Saturday’s F3 derby against Newcastle. Picture: Liam Driver
One that, based on recent evidence, won’t cease until the set-up starts to look more like it did in the good old days.
Those days were in full swing even before the Mariners even had a Centre of Excellence, when the team trained at any amateur park they could get their hands on.
Several anecdotes highlight how they got by on nothing more than scant resources and a bit of humour, including one featuring an inflatable goal with a hole in it and a staff member on air pumping duty just to get through the session.
In a sense, it’s all part of the identity that endeared it so irresistibly to the region’s people.
“We were always written off as we were with ‘small Central Coast’, as they used to call it,” Jedinak said this year.
Former Socceroos captain Mile Jedinak in action for the Central Coast Mariners.
“We fed off each other and wanted to do it for each other. We knew there was possibly a special journey to go on. That filtered down from the staff.”
At the time they included Arnold, inaugural coach Lawrie McKinna before him, assistant coach and then head coach Phil Moss, goalkeeping coach John Crawley and former player turned fitness coach Andrew Clark.
“When you look back to those days with Graham Arnold, he made it easy for us, he made us all look good to be honest,” said former defender Josh Rose.
“He really instilled the team discipline and unity, which on the coast is massive.
“It’s a small place so you need the boys sticking together, you need to fight for each other and be good mates, then you get the best out of each other.
“It’s very hard to repeat that in a team that doesn’t really have it.”
Socceroos star Tom Rogic during his Central Coast Mariners days.
McKinna’s work up the road with the resurgent Newcastle Jets underscores what a loss he was in terms of building community.
Critics searching for answers point the finger at Mike Charlesworth, the seeming common denominator who assumed majority ownserhip in 2013.
Before him, the Mariners had two coaches in nine years.
Since, it’s been a congaline of coaches and catalogue of catastrophes.
Aggregate the league table every season from the league’s inception until the 2013 grand final, and the Mariners are the best in the competition.
Socceroos coach Graham Arnold when he was in charge at the Mariners.
Do the same from the start of the 2013-14 season until now, and they’re dead last.
In 2015-16 Tony Walmsley embarked on a Charlesworth-mandated mission to thrill and conceded 70 goals en route to the table’s bottom.
The next season Paul Okon finished eighth with Walmsley’s squad and one signing of his own but walked away in frustration while in ninth, all the while operating without spending their full salary cap allowance.
Then title-winning mentor Mulvey got more funds, recruited 17 players and a Usain Bolt-flavoured sugar hit, before overseeing an 8-2 thrashing and getting the sack.
Saturday’s home humiliation by Wellington drew less than a quarter of their old average home crowds of up around nearly 16,000.
Charlesworth cannot be the complete story. Identity is too intangible a quality for that.
And with A-League hopefuls circling for a licence, his very presence could keeping the Mariners on the coast.
How it rediscovers the promised land is another question entirely.
Originally published as
https://outline.com/XXRA47
Insertnamehere
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Socceroos tweeted about a stream not long before the game as well but it’s not widely publicised. Last night game was 12.00am but next one which is maybe tomorrow is at 9.00pm
Wombat
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Sign Tom Hiariej please Phelan unless your eyes are painted on.
pjennings
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I went on the stadium tour yesterday and spoke to the groundsman. Relaying the pitch may happen in September or next September. It is prepared offsite and is ready to play on almost straight away so should not affect our normal season. 10 years since last done. Ideally should be done more often but with the sparse use the stadium gets it lasts longer.
marinermick
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Not sure about this.
I think he is very good at media.
Has coming waltzing in, schmoozed a few people, said some generic feel good sound bytes, and then he will be off again. On top of that he has received a lovely little holiday in Terrigal.
If he gets the Man U job permanently he will forget us in a second.
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style_cafe
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You think so Mick?
Surely he`d be organising the friendlies for us with Man U when they tour next....
style_cafe
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Has anyone seen or heard from Joyful Penguin?
He hasn`t posted for nearly 2 months now.
I hope he hasn`t defected back to West Melbourne although I wouldn`t blame him.
He hasn`t posted for nearly 2 months now.
I hope he hasn`t defected back to West Melbourne although I wouldn`t blame him.
Pirate Pete
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I was thinking the same the other day. Easier for him to support a team down there.
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