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"I for one welcome our insect overlords" - The Politics Thread

true believer

Well-Known Member
the ides of march are soon enough . trump won't allow musk equal billing .
vance is also there by the AI crowd .at least one and probably two will be dead fairly soon .

long knives indeed
 

pjennings

Well-Known Member
"I will sign an executive order banning any federal department or agency from colluding with any organisation, business or person to censor, limit or categorise or impede the lawful speech of american citizens".

I'm assuming you mean by trump making this executive order the government will be forced to investigate the article
"MEMORANDUM FOR THE HEADS OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES FROM: Russell Vought Director"

where Trump wanted to "ensure that Federal agencies cease and desist from using taxpayer dollars to fund these divisive, un-American propaganda training sessions."

as a form of "censor, limit, categorise or impede the lawful speech of american citizens".

Is that your argument?
It is. Did you read the September memo.

Russell Vought was the 42nd Director of the Office of Management and Budget under Trump.

He founded the organization the Center for Renewing America. One of its main raison d'etre is focused on combating critical race theory. He was also appointed as policy director of the Republican National Committee platform committee in May 2024.

So yeah the Trump administration has done it. Trump wants to look at things retrospectively and it is part of Agenda 47.

  • Cutting federal funding for any school or program teaching critical race theory or "gender ideology", directing the Departments of Justice and Education to open civil rights investigations into any school district that has engaged in race-based discrimination; also, "remov[ing] the radicals who have infiltrated the federal Department of Education" and "Keep[ing] men out of women's sports."
While then saying

  • "Reclaim[ing] our once great educational institutions from the radical Left" by using the college accreditation system; firing the "radical Left accreditors" and substituting them with new ones "who will impose real standards on colleges". The standards will include "defending the American tradition and Western civilization"; protecting free speech; eliminating "wasteful" administrative positions, specifically all the ones dealing with DEI; offering accelerated and low-cost degrees; providing job placement and career services; and implementing college entrance and exit exams to prove learning quality. Also, directing the Department of Justice to pursue federal civil rights cases against schools that "engage in racial discrimination"; the ones that persist in "discrimination under the guise of equity" will have their endowment taxed, and through budget reconciliation, "I will advance a measure to have them fined up to the entire amount of their endowment." Part of the seized funds will be used as restitution "for victims of these illegal and unjust policies".[31][32][72] According to The Nation, "Many experts in higher education have begun to sound the alarm that such actions may infringe on academic freedom and institutional autonomy – two cornerstones of American higher education", whereas Trump’s National Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt stated, "By increasing access to school choice, empowering parents to have a voice in their child's education, and supporting good teachers, President Trump will improve academic excellence for all students."[73]

So free speech for everyone except those that disagree with him.
 

Spacks

Well-Known Member
It is. Did you read the September memo.

-snip- cos it's long

So free speech for everyone except those that disagree with him.
It'll be an interesting legal challenge if the executive order is issued exactly as he's spoken it in that clip. I doubt it will.
 

Spacks

Well-Known Member
Looks like Mein Kampf isn’t banned.
It's not banned in Australia either.

That list of books weren't banned by the US federal government either, @sydmariner.

They were all banned by the local/state governments in America, so the assertion that the link above is a "trumps banned book list" is patently false. I'm happy to be proven wrong though, I doubt I will be though.
 

true believer

Well-Known Member
It's not banned in Australia either.

That list of books weren't banned by the US federal government either, @sydmariner.

They were all banned by the local/state governments in America, so the assertion that the link above is a "trumps banned book list" is patently false. I'm happy to be proven wrong though, I doubt I will be though.
like only the states banned abortion .
 

Spacks

Well-Known Member
to kill a mocking bird is
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Yes very good, it is banned twice by Pitt County Schools in North Carolina and Edmond Public Schools in Oklohama, not the federal government.

Also interesting to note, when did Biden take over the US Presidency? It was January 2021 right? So I don't think Trump was President in October 2021 nor Fall (1 September – 30 November) 2021
 

Spacks

Well-Known Member
like only the states banned abortion .
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Here's the receipt.

So yes, only the states are banning or legalising abortion.
 

pjennings

Well-Known Member
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Yes very good, it is banned twice by Pitt County Schools in North Carolina and Edmond Public Schools in Oklohama, not the federal government.

Also interesting to note, when did Biden take over the US Presidency? It was January 2021 right? So I don't think Trump was President in October 2021 nor Fall (1 September – 30 November) 2021
Stop playing dumb - conservative states were implementing them as per his September 2020 memo. Just face it, book banning i.e. restriction of free speech, is part of the DJT GOP agenda. Explicitly this time as opposed to by an mail from his own federal agency in the dying dies of his previous administration.
 

true believer

Well-Known Member
View attachment 3538
Yes very good, it is banned twice by Pitt County Schools in North Carolina and Edmond Public Schools in Oklohama, not the federal government.

Also interesting to note, when did Biden take over the US Presidency? It was January 2021 right? So I don't think Trump was President in October 2021 nor Fall (1 September – 30 November) 2021
so it's banned. like abortion, by the states .
the women that have died outside hospitals have been killed by state bans .
everyone of thems blood is on trump and his sycophantic base .
 

adz

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Staff member
I really am not interested in this shit so never read through the whole lot here so if I keep getting posts reported here I'll just lock this one and we can stick to football chat.

I do think "you're twisted" is hardly a horrible insult and there was other context around it though. Lighten up guys and stop going directly at each other please. Either that or just rip each other apart and expect you will cop it back. I don't mind as long as I am not involved.
 

Capn Gus Bloodbeard

Well-Known Member
@true believer

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/25/donald-trump-general-mark-milley-crack-skulls
Gen Mark Milley, the top US military leader, resisted Donald Trump’s demands that his forces “crack skulls” and “beat the f**k out” of protesters marching against police brutality and structural racism, according to a much-trailed new book.


“Just shoot them,” the president reportedly said.

Imagine trying to claim this is the president who would protect constitutional rights

https://www.k12dive.com/news/star-s...s-history-energized-movement-to-erase/635856/

The same Trump who had an executive order blocked for violating free speech
In September 2020, Trump issued an executive order prohibiting federal workplace trainings from covering “divisive concepts,” including teaching that “the United States is fundamentally racist or sexist” or that people are “inherently racist, sexist, or oppressive, whether consciously or unconsciously” as a result of their race or gender. That order was blocked nationwide three months later by a federal judge who said it violated free speech.

That denies first amendment rights and tries to block books about him?

https://www.thenation.com/article/a...an-books-that-expose-him-should-be-impeached/

https://www.wgbh.org/news/commentar...o-ban-critical-books-violate-the-constitution

Oh, right, we're talking about the same president who is facing federal prosecution for starting an insurgency refusing to accept a previous election.

Yes, clearly the constitution, democracy and freedom are very important to him.

Anyway, I'm sure he's counting down the days until he can spend all his time at Mar-a-lago on the taxpayer dime again.

America has become a parody of itself. And I can't see it getting any better - the Republican party isn't going to suddenly start looking at decent people or ones who, y'know, actually act presidential, just because Trump is gone. America won't halt its slide towards religious fundamentalism anytime soon.
 

true believer

Well-Known Member
don't you think people should take responsibility for their actions ?
instead of using weasel words to deflect what they've done
 

Capn Gus Bloodbeard

Well-Known Member
does the red stand for trumps murdered victims ?
he also wants to punish women who have had an abortion .
guilty man indeed
Rapist and paedophile, don't forget. Women only exist to be used. Why would they need rights? Somebody shamelessly showing that level of entitlement over women's bodies certainly isn't going to legislate to protect them.

America is not a safe country for women. Or children. Disgusting what these abortion bans are doing.
 

true believer

Well-Known Member
Rapist and paedophile, don't forget. Women only exist to be used. Why would they need rights? Somebody shamelessly showing that level of entitlement over women's bodies certainly isn't going to legislate to protect them.

America is not a safe country for women. Or children. Disgusting what these abortion bans are doing.
they banned a minimum age for marriage .because you know it "encourages abortion"
welcome to the trump states
 

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