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Australia's bid for the 2018 or 2022 World Cup

midfielder

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Zycie

Good pick up ... the AFL management is clever .. talk to long term Football folk in Victoria and they will tell you that ground control in Victoria has always been high on the AFL list of things to do keeping football away from having grounds has been practiced for over 100 years..

For many years ... Football and Rugby were banned in Victorian state schools.. 
 

midfielder

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Our secret weapon.... HHMMMMMMmmmm


[http://www.theage.com.au/world-cup-2010/world-cup-news/the-man-behind-our-2022-bid-is-not-exactly-shy-in-coming-forward-20100625-z9pa.html]

THE Socceroos may be out of the World Cup but Australia is still very much in the race to host it. The past few weeks in South Africa have not been entirely fruitless and if Australia is ultimately successful in its bid to host football's biggest party, one man will be given a large slice of the credit.

You won't see Peter Hargitay on the TV, posing with Football Federation Australia chairman Frank Lowy, making merry with new bid ambassador Elle Macpherson or psyching up the sorry Socceroos. You won't really see him anywhere. Hargitay - the slightly elusive 58-year-old world football mystery man - is more of a back-room guy. Some see him as a villain, others as the world's greatest spin doctor. Like it or not, he is our spin doctor now.

Make no mistake, though, Hargitay is shaping as Australia's not-so-secret weapon. For the first time last week, Football Federation Australia's ''strategy consultant'' sat down with an Australian journalist after a frantic 10 days spent pressing the flesh and courting the votes of FIFA royalty. What followed was a unique insight into how and why Australia remains a strong chance to claim hosting rights when it's decided in December.

''Had our team been the typical bid team we would have had very limited access to the guys who make decisions here,'' he says. ''We did rather well. It was a very positive experience, these last 10 days.''

During that time the legendary arm twister has met almost 20 of the 24 FIFA executive committee members who will vote to award the hosting rights. He has spoken regularly with FIFA president Sepp Blatter (''I have his trust'') and Asian football supremo Mohammed Bin Hamman (''He is my brother and I am his''). He explains - casually name-dropping - that he has just had breakfast with Franz Beckenbauer.

''We have made up much ground in the last 12 months,'' he says. ''We started as rank outsiders. Australia is not famous for soccer, but we have now reached the position where I am comfortable. Everybody who matters knows what we stand for and what we are doing.''

Hargitay says the next five months will be crucial, but believes Australia is well placed, with the four-day inspection tour by FIFA scrutineers in late July - including visits to the MCG and ANZ Stadium - and then a crucial executive committee meeting in October before the final vote on December 2.

Among the countries competing for hosting rights with Australia for the 2022 World Cup are the US, England, Qatar, Japan and Korea. Some believe it likely that nations lagging in the contest - particularly Japan and Korea - may sniff the wind and pull out if the verdict from FIFA's inspectors is less than glowing. Qatar, with its small population, mid-40s temperatures and bans on public drinking, skimpy female attire and rowdy behaviour, has deep pockets but is said by insiders to be struggling to generate excitement among voting members.

That leaves Australia and the US well-positioned but with a lot of work still to do.

''It will come down to the night before the vote,'' Hargitay says. ''It always does. People are trying to twist elbows in the last minute, the last night, even the morning of the vote. Last time I experienced some things which were amazing. Even on the morning of the vote, there were last-minute arrangements made.''

When it comes to arm twisting, few have the access or pedigree of Hargitay, who says Australia's biggest challenge is that its bid is publicly funded. ''This means that every single thing must be above board.''

Others, such as England and the US, are in a similar position. He won't say it but it's clearly the worry in the Australian camp. Not everyone faces such accountability. He won't go further, pointing out that bidding nations are bound by strict FIFA rules from talking each other down in public. ''Some others may have different attitudes to certain things, but what matters is that we have a very good bid and that we have perfect access,'' he says.

''I happen to have the access so our team has the access. I believe it is unparalleled access. Access means there is trust. I can say that Mr Blatter gives me his trust, so does the secretary- general (Jerome Valcke) who shapes opinions. All the key [executive committee] members who have been long-serving, I know them personally and there is a level of trust that I am proud to enjoy.''

Despite his glittering contact book, Hargitay is the kind of character often described as ''colourful''. The lead critic is investigative journalist and filmmaker Andrew Jennings, who has accused him of extensive financial misdealings, tax dodging and cocaine trafficking, as well as spin-doctoring for nefarious causes, including Union Carbide after the environmental disaster in Bhopal, India, in 1984. Jennings has pursued Hargitay relentlessly and attaches documentary evidence for each claim on his website. Hargitay dismisses these charges as lies and describes his pursuer as ''a discredited moron''. He has repeatedly threatened to sue. The accuracy of those allegations may one day be tested in court.

Regardless of the veracity of those claims, Hargitay talks a good game. If he can achieve what he says he can - and Lowy believes it - Australia is in with a chance.

''I guess I'm a pretty normal kind of guy,'' he says when asked to describe himself. That much is not true of a man who hobnobs with the rich and famous, dabbled as executive producer of Hollywood's football propaganda Goal movies and divides his time between homes in Zurich, London and Jamaica.

Hargitay left Hungary, fleeing the communist regime at age five, and describes himself as a survivor. It gives him a strong bond with Lowy - another Hungarian who fled his home country and built a massive fortune from nothing. ''I have maximum respect for him, I love him actually,'' Hargitay says of Australia's richest man. ''He is one of the few people who understand where I am coming from.''

It was another Hungarian, broadcaster Les Murray, who got the pair together six years ago and in doing so helped change the face of Australian football. Then, Hargitay was working at FIFA as special adviser to Blatter when Murray, an old acquaintance, stopped by. Murray suggested he meet Lowy, ostensibly so they could speak their native tongue together. They bonded instantly. The FFA boss freely admits it was Hargitay's lobbying of a sceptical Bin Hamman that helped Australia join the Asian Confederation in 2006.

Lowy wanted to recruit Hargitay when he was pondering an Australian World Cup bid but did not yet have government backing for his dream. The English got a head start and appointed him to devise its bid strategy. When Lord Triesman took over England's bid Hargitay fell out with the new boss and left. Triesman thought losing Hargitay was no big deal. He had underestimated his connections. At a celebration hosted soon after by FIFA powerbroker Jack Warner's Trinidad Football Federation, the Englishman arrived at the 1500-head dinner to see Hargitay seated at the head table with Blatter, Joao Havelange, Warner, Michel Platini and Hargitay. He was not pleased. After that split, two other bidders tried for Hargitay's services but Lowy quickly secured him. He is scathing about Triesman, who quit his post last month after he was secretly recorded accusing the Spanish bid of bribery. His place has been taken by former FA chief Geoff Thompson, a Hargitay mate.

Hargitay has been busy in South Africa. The meetings have been virtually around the clock in the bars, restaurants and hotel rooms of Johannesburg. Also in the plush ''Australia Lounge'' set up in the city's convention centre, across the road from the hotel where FIFA royalty is staying. In the lounge, politicians and business leaders, representatives from some of the world's largest corporations and, of course, FIFA bigwigs come to eat, drink, watch the games and attend parties and functions. All the while they are being pressed and charmed and sold on Australia's bid.

What are they being told? Effectively, under Hargitay's direction, Australia is repeating FIFA and Blatter's message back to them. Blatter talks often of ''white spots'' on the map. Blank spaces where the World Cup has not travelled, where football does not rule. He is eyeing them off, one at a time. Australia - a whole continent that has never hosted the World Cup - fits the bill. It is why Russia has been spruiking itself as the first ''Eurasian'' World Cup. Why the emirate of Qatar promotes itself as the first World Cup in the Middle East. Tellingly, it is not an argument open to the US, Japan or Korea - all recent tournament hosts.

''Blatter was desperate to bring it to Africa,'' Hargitay says of this tournament. ''It was his obsession. Now there is only one continent that has never had it.''

Two-thirds of the world's population is in Australia's region and Hargitay is only too aware of the FIFA internal studies - he was there when they were compiled - that show exponential growth in television and new media rights for Asia will underpin the game's future financial strength. ''Europe is saturated, the US is saturated. Asia is nowhere near saturation,'' he says. ''That is very important for our bid.''

It is all about corralling votes. Public opinion, media opinion, AFL and NRL opinion are merely sidetracks. FFA chief executive Ben Buckley has visited London several times to brief and convince football writers of Australia's credentials. They have been impressed, but remain sceptical, seeing the US as a formidable opponent.

So what? The end result will - Hargitay leaves little doubt - be decided by late-night chats in five-star hotel rooms. It is a glorified local council election, a political leadership spill. Court and count the votes. Little else matters.

The deal struck before this tournament - for Australia to pull out of the bid for 2018 - presumably gathered some European support. It was publicly endorsed by Blatter and Valcke, a significant coup. Oceania has already promised its one vote to Australia.

Hargitay says there is no such thing as a European voting bloc or a South American one. His emphasis is simple. Each of the 24 voters must be networked independently, and often.

How is it going? ''Our objectives are understood very well in CONCACAF,'' he says of the North American confederation that includes the US and is controlled by Hargitay's mate, Warner. ''Despite the fact that the US are a competitor.'' Then he pauses for effect. ''We are even better understood in South America.''

The votes of Australia's home Asian confederation are trickier, with Qatar, South Korea and Japan all having a voting delegate on the committee. While those votes will not go to Australia, the voting will be conducted in rounds of elimination and they are still being charmed and courted. ''Eventually, one, two or three will drop by the wayside and that's when phase two will kick in,'' Hargitay says.

''I am absolutely confident that if there is only one Asian bidder left then all four votes from Asia will go to them. That I am sure of.''

It will be imperative that Australia can gather enough votes to survive the first round of voting - probably around six. That figure looks very achievable. Then, as other contenders drop out, the tally will hopefully rise. Australia will hope that certain factors - not least the historical reluctance of South American delegates to back the US - deal it an advantage if, as planned, the final showdown is between Australia and the US.

In coming months, Hargitay will visit most of the 24 executive committee members in their home nations, taking his lobbying effort to them. If he - and Australia - fails, it will not be for lack of confidence.
 

midfielder

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I think this guy is off the page and has had to much to drink.... but he is a well known sports journalist of smh & roar fame... he says Qatar will win... HMMMM

http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/06/29/qatar-will-host-the-2022-football-world-cup/#comment-386734

Football politics is a hard ball game, where ambition, treachery, corruption, political and economic influence, perfumed or manured by vast dollops of money, dictate the outcome of every major decision. It is this heady milieu that makes it almost inevitable that Qatar, a fabulously rich country, will win the hosting rights to the 2022 Football World Cup.

An informed source has told me that the FIFA president, Joseph S. Blatter, Sepp Blatter to the punters, wants another term as presiding official of world football. But the chairman of the Qatars 2022 Bid Commitee, His Excellency Sheik Mohammed bin Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, has the numbers to prevent this.

A deal will be done to square this circle.

Blatter will get his final term as present. And Qatar will win the hosting rights to the 2022 Football World Cup.

A deal cut this way effectively kills off the bids from the USA (which could not win its latest Olympic hosting bid); Japan (which has already hosted a Football World Cup); and Australia (which is out its league in a world of big finance football politics played for the highest of stakes).

The heart of the Qatar bid, aside from the politicking of getting Blatter another term as FIFA president, involves a geo-political consideration that the Middle East region is a powerhouse and a powder keg.

FIFA, like the IOC, likes to think of itself as an organisation that uses sport, in this case football, as a force for peace in the world.

The Qatar bid has 750 pages.

It has 2,000 pages of supplementary documents and covers in great detail all the relevant issues ranging from accommodation, transport, security, environment and stadium infrastructure. This massive documentation is backed up with all the required government guarantees and agreements.

The bid is an example of money not talking but actually shouting out its power and authority.

It is not entirely beyond the bounds of belief that if a successful Football World Cup is held in Qatar, that FIFA could be in line for a Nobel Prize for Peace. The appeal of this to the marketing programs and self-esteem of FIFA, which boasts it has more member nations than the United Nations, cannot be over-estimated.

Qatars 22-chapter bid document makes the case that if it wins the hosting rights, 2022 will be the first World Cup held in the Middle East.

In Qatar, history and the future will come together in an historic choice of Host Nation, in a global age with medias and technology bringing continents closer together Qatar is truly in the Middle, neither East not West. Qatar proposes a World Cup that will perfectly reflect the FIFA slogan: For the Game: for the World.

Qatar has the third largest gas reserves in the world:14 per cent of all the known resereves. It has the highest or second highest (after Liechenstein, depending on the source) per capita income in the world, and the fastest growing income.

It has the tiny population, however, of 1 million, swollen to about 2 million with foreign workers and business people.

On the face of it, it is improbable that such a small country in terms of population, with a climate that makes it unbearable to be outside for most of the year, could hope to host a football tournament that involves 32 teams and 12 stadiums.

But the bid makes clear that all the stadiums will have ground-breaking cooling systems, fan zones and training grounds: Fans, players and officials will be able to enjoy cool and comfortable open-air conditions, not exceeding 27 degrees celsius climate.

The state of the art cooling modules and some of the modular stadiums will be given to developing countries after the 2022 tournament. The carbon-neutral technology developed for the tournament will create enough solar power for energy to be put into the national grid when the stadiums are not in use.

The Middle East, African and Asian nations (the Third World bloc) are certain to support Qatars bid.

Europe, also, because of the convenience and time-zone considerations of a tournament based in Qatar, together with the deals that the major nations can tie-up with Qatar and its supporters on the Arabian, will come on board.

Blatter will bring in the South American countries.

Its hard to see in all of this just where Australia hopes to get votes for its bid.

Its football team is higher ranked than Qatars. But so is New Zealands. Australia may be new territory for FIFA to bless with a World Cup tournament.

But so is the Middle East.

The Qatar football team is out of its league on the field. But off the field, Qatar is very much a big player in world and football politics. This weight will be too much for FIFA to resist when it comes to naming the host of the 2022 Football World Cup.

And the winner is Qatar!
 

dibo

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midfielder said:
I think this guy is off the page and has had to much to drink.... but he is a well known sports journalist of smh & roar fame... he says Qatar will win... HMMMM

spiro zavos is a rugby writer. he's as well versed in FIFA intrigues as I am with the intricacies of scrummaging. i take him about as seriously as spongebob squarepants.
 

midfielder

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Say no more .... really you think ... FFA are spending a lot of money on consultants ...

http://www.smh.com.au/world-cup-2010/world-cup-news/secret-millions-grease-world-cup-bid-20100629-zj9o.html?rand=1277819697721

EXCLUSIVE
TWO controversial European lobbyists hired to help bring the football World Cup to Australia stand to receive up to $11.37 million in fees and bonuses - one-quarter of the taxpayer-funded bid - according to secret Football Federation Australia files.

The files include a spreadsheet that suggests the federal government was not told specific details about how taxpayers' money was to be spent on the lobbyists and grants to overseas football bodies headed by powerful FIFA officials.

An investigation into Australia's World Cup bid can also reveal how the FFA:

  Bought Paspaley pearl necklaces for the wives of many of the 24 FIFA executive committee members who in December will decide which countries will host the 2018 and 2022 World Cups. Pearl cufflinks were also handed out, taking the total value of the gifts to an estimated $50,000.

  Offered an all-expenses paid trip to the South American FIFA executive committee member Rafael Salguero and his wife to Australia this year to mark his birthday.

Paid for a Caribbean football team linked to the FIFA vice-president Jack Warner to travel to Cyprus last year.

An FFA document contains two budget balance sheets outlining how the $45.6 million World Cup bid government grant is to be spent.

One balance sheet is for the FFA only and is headed ''bid budget management reporting''. The other is for the government and is less detailed and titled ''bid budget government reporting''.

The spreadsheets from mid-2009 suggest the FFA chose not to disclose to the government specific details of the payment structure for its two consultants, Peter Hargitay and Fedor Radmann.

The FFA said its accounting practices were exemplary and independently audited.

''The FFA is completely transparent in its dealings with government and has provided all information regarding the bidding process requested by government,'' said the FFA chief executive, Ben Buckley, who also declined to reveal publicly what Mr Hargitay and Mr Radmann were being paid.

However, confidential documents show the pair - who have been hired to direct Australia's lobbying of FIFA officials - stand to make $11.37 million if Australia wins the right to host the 2022 World Cup. Australia this month withdrew its bid for the 2018 cup.

Mr Hargitay is being paid $1.35 million by the FFA and has a success fee of $2.54 million. Mr Radmann's work for the Australian bid, which the FFA has tried to keep confidential, will earn him up to $3.49 million through a German consulting firm. He is also entitled to a success fee of $3.99 million.

As part of a separate contract, the FFA is paying Mr Radmann's business partner Andreas Abold an additional $3 million for World Cup "bid book production and bid advice''. It is unclear if Mr Abold will also receive some of Mr Radmann's fees.

The mid-2009 spreadsheet also suggests the government was not told details about plans to give $6.5 million in taxpayer funds to football bodies in Africa, Asia and Oceania. The document says the FFA's bid strategy will give large grants to "international football development''.

The government was told by the FFA that $11.37 million was going to ''consultants/agencies''. But the FFA prepared a more detailed spreadsheet for its own executives, specifically outlining how this figure would be divided into fees and bonuses for Mr Hargitay and Mr Radmann's international ''advocacy'' campaign.

Mr Buckley said: ''Consistent with standard management practice, FFA maintains a more comprehensive breakdown of expenditure and forecasts for day-to-day internal management purposes and accountability.''

The necklaces and cufflinks were given at a dinner in 2008 for FIFA officials at the home of the FFA chairman, Frank Lowy, after Australia had announced its World Cup intentions but before formal bidding had begun.

Mr Buckley said: ''It is a widely accepted, common practice, among governments, many business and sporting organisations to provide symbolic gifts, to visiting international delegations.''

FIFA allows "occasional gifts'' of ''symbolic or incidental value''.

It is believed the FFA funded the Trinidad and Tobago under-20 team's travel to Cyprus at the request of Mr Hargitay, who is close to the Caribbean football chief and FIFA vice-president Jack Warner.

In several FFA documents Mr Hargitay refers to his strong ties to "Jack''. Mr Warner has been repeatedly accused of using FIFA status to enrich himself and his family. After an investigation in 2006 FIFA ordered him to repay $US1 million his family earned through the improper sale of World Cup tickets.

Last October Mr Warner returned a $435 luxury handbag - one of 24 given to the wives of FIFA executive committee members - from the English bid team, after media reports in Britain.

FFA documents make it clear that Mr Radmann and Mr Hargitay are managing the international "strategy" on behalf of the Australian bid team. They boast ties to some of football's most powerful men, including Mr Warner, the former German player Franz Beckenbauer and the FIFA president, Sepp Blatter.

Mr Radmann and Mr Hargitay have colourful histories. Mr Radmann, who has worked as an aide to Beckenbauer, has been implicated in:

  A scheme in 2000 to allegedly offer financial inducements to key FIFA executive committee officials to get them to back Germany's bid to host the 2006 World Cup.

Conflict of interest scandals in 2003 that forced him to stand down from Germany's cup organising committee.

It is understood Australian bid officials sought to minimise any publicity about Mr Radmann's involvement in the bid.

Mr Hargitay's past includes being acquitted twice for cocaine trafficking in the 1990s and his alleged link to a securities fraud in Hungary, according to US court documents from 1997.

Mr Hargitay also boasts about daily meetings in South Africa with the Asian Football Confederation boss, Mohammad bin Hamman.

Documents detail Mr Hargitay's role arranging meetings between overseas football officials and Mr Lowy and Australian politicians. The former prime minister Kevin Rudd met Mr Warner in his Trinidad and Tobago home in November.

A spokeswoman for the Department of Health and Ageing, the agency that provided the World Cup grant, said yesterday that the FFA briefed it regularly on its spending.

Asked about differing bid balance sheets, the spokeswoman said: ''The detailed internal accounting systems of the FFA are a matter for them.''

She said the department was aware of the backgrounds of Mr Hargitay and Mr Radmann. It also had no evidence of any breaches of the public service guidelines that cover the FFA's consultants.

All FFA bid team employees and lobbyists must comply with Australia's Public Service code of conduct and act in an honest and ethical manner. The spokeswoman said: ''The FFA has assured the[ department] taskforce that this provision is being adhered to. If evidence contrary to this was provided it would be thoroughly investigated as would any alleged breach of the funding agreement.''
 

midfielder

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SMH ... same theme as yesterday ... but SHM seems to be expecting something.. maybe the dog chasing the car ... SMH wants to find the scandel as they are sure there is one...the bid team can not be sneaky clean after dealing with these guys... Olympics was the same I seem to recall..

Jack Warner gets a run ...


http://www.smh.com.au/world-cup-2010/world-cup-news/tortuous-trail-of-our-world-cup-bid-20100630-zmtn.html

Tortuous trail of our World Cup bid

July 1, 2010


Australia's efforts to host the 2022 World Cup may have involved some questionable use of taxpayer money, Richard Baker and Nick McKenzie reveal.

When it comes to the world of sports politics, Jack Warner may be the most scandal-tainted man with whom Kevin Rudd has ever posed. In the last decade, the FIFA vice-president and Trinidad and Tobago football boss has repeatedly been accused of abusing his position as an international football official to enrich himself and his family.

The scandals include acquiring lucrative sports broadcasting rights for a pittance and allegedly stealing sponsorship funds from his home nation's soccer team.

In 2006, the Warner family travel company, Simpaul, was found by auditors to have made more than $1 million scalping World Cup tickets. An official FIFA file from March 2007 states that Simpaul was ''ordered to donate'' these improperly gained profits to charity.

But last year, as Rudd clasped Warner's hand and smiled for the cameras at the Commonwealth leaders meeting in Trinidad and Tobago, the scandals seemed old news. For Warner is a man Australia is assiduously courting with a firm eye on the future. On 2022 to be exact.

As one of 24 on FIFA's executive committee (Exco), Warner in December will help decide which nations will host the 2018 and 2022 Cups. As a contender for 2022, Australia is counting on Warner's support in the later rounds of the FIFA ballot.

Assisting Australia to court Warner is Football Federation Australia's highly paid lobbyist, Peter Hargitay, who helped arrange the Warner-Rudd meeting.

It is understood that Hargitay was also involved in arranging, at Warner's request, the sponsorship by the FFA of a trip for the Trinidad and Tobago under-20 men's football team to a training camp in Cyprus last year.

The trip would have cost the FFA - presumably using Australian taxpayer money - tens of thousands of dollars. The Warner family's travel company, Simpaul, was involved in arranging part of that trip, however, the FFA said yesterday all its dealings with the Trinidad and Tobago soccer team were through a separate and unrelated travel company.

It is also believed Hargitay was involved in, or at least knew of, a trip to Australia offered by the FFA to Warner supporter and a South American FIFA Exco member, Rafael Salguero, and his wife in December, as well as other gifts given to Exco members by Australia.

Hargitay says he had ''no'' knowledge of any gifts and that giving them ''is against FIFA regulations''.

The fact the Australian government has given $45.6 million to the FFA's bid campaign, and is backing it publicly, raises questions about how much due diligence has been done on the funding of grants, consulting fees and gifts.

Hargitay is not the only international soccer lobbyist on the FFA payroll. So too is Fedor Radmann, a German businessman who speaks four languages, loves opera and mountaineering, and, who from 1979 to 1989 was managing director of sports marketing company ISL. He is also a man rich in apparent conflicts of interest between his business interests and sporting associations.

The European company has been embroiled in a long-running Swiss court case over alleged bribes to FIFA and other sporting officials. The case was settled earlier this month after key participants agreed to make big payments. A Swiss prosecutor affirmed comments from a judge that ISL had made improper inducements. Radmann's name was not aired in the court hearings and the Herald has no evidence, and is not suggesting, he was party to any of ISL's allegedly corrupt activity.

But there is documentary evidence tying Radmann to other questionable dealings. In 2003, German media (and later the BBC) aired allegations he was engaged in highly unconventional business dealings to win favour with FIFA officials.

At the time, Radmann was working with legendary German footballer turned administrator Franz Beckenbauer as he led Germany's bid for the 2006 Cup. In 2000, shortly before the FIFA officials voted, Radmann was tied to a scheme to channel large payments, involving broadcast rights to matches, to ''trust accounts'' associated with at least three FIFA officials.

In an associated deal, $1 million in consulting fees were sent to a Lebanese racehorse owner, Elias Zaccour, who was very close to leading FIFA officials.

The German media suggested these payments were sweeteners to impress key FIFA officials. Radmann and the FIFA executives allegedly involved dismissed the claims, despite the evidence. Radmann has not responded to the Herald's questions.

Also in 2003, the German media focused on a series of lesser scandals involving Radmann: that while he worked on Germany's Cup organising committee, he was also working for businesses that stood to gain from the committee's work. A media uproar saw Radmann stand down, although Beckenbauer kept him on as an adviser.

In 2005, Radmann popped up in the media again, when the Financial Times revealed he had sat on a tendering panel that had awarded a lucrative contract to a German graphic designer, Andreas Abold.

The Times said Abold, a highly respected and successful designer specialising in big event marketing and publications, was a good friend and business partner of Radmann when the contract was awarded.

Indeed, Abold and Radmann had worked together on Germany's 2006 World Cup bid. When the FFA came knocking, the men were still close.

Not that the FFA wanted anyone to know. Australian press reports arranged by the FFA that mentioned the recruitment of Abold did not mention Radmann.

As secret FFA documents from 2009 reveal, Abold was awarded two Australian government-funded contracts after being appointed early in 2009. These were handed out in confidential deals, involving no or minimal competitive tendering.

The first contract is worth $3.2 million and is labelled ''Abold 1: Bid Book Production and Advice''. It requires Abold to help design and produce Australia's bid book, a crucial marketing document that promotes the nation's case to host the Cup. The second is more mysterious. Worth $3.7 million , it is labelled ''Abold 2: International Relations/ Advocacy''. But it may be more accurate to label it the Abold and Radmann contract. For, as other confidential FFA documents make clear, the Abold 2 contract actually goes, at least partly, towards financing Radmann's duties.

It also includes a very hefty bonus to ''FDR'' (Radmann) should Australia pull off a World Cup win. So exactly what is Radmann doing for Australia?

FFA documents indicate Radmann's role is to help identify and profile FIFA Exco members who may vote for Australia, and to set up meetings with them. Despite an internal document stating Radmann is to help manage the FFA bid's international ''strategy'', the man doing a similar task, Hargitay, tells a different story.

Hargitay told the Herald Radmann's role was limited to ''extending technical advice [mainly pertaining to the bid book] to the FFA''.

Sources close to the government confirm Hargitay and Radmann are both working on strategy and lobbying. But Hargitay stresses that his dealings with Radmann are minimal. ''I have met Mr Radmann several times in that technical function,'' he says. However, the Herald understands that Radmann's perceived utility, both in Australia and overseas, is his closeness to FIFA Exco members, including Beckenbauer. Indeed, this relationship may have helped the Australian bid win public backing from Beckenbauer, who in December described the FFA's bid as ''perfect''.

While Radmann did not respond to questions about his work for Australia, the Hungarian-born Hargitay is more forthright about his own activities.

In 2002, Hargitay worked as adviser to the FIFA president, Sepp Blatter, and began building his relationships with FIFA officials. Before that, he had a colourful past as a public relations man who had twice been acquitted of drug trafficking charges in the US and Jamaica. He now has a letter of apology from the Jamaican government.

The FFA chairman, Frank Lowy, and Hargitay were reportedly introduced several years ago, when Hargitay was still working for Blatter and had offered to use his lobbying skills to propel Australia's ultimately successful campaign to join the Asian Football Confederation in 2006.

Hargitay was recently quoted on the relationship: ''I have maximum respect for him [Lowy], I love him, actually; he is one of the few people who understand where I am coming from.''

Hargitay recently told a sports journalist that while in South Africa for the World Cup, he has a daily coffee with Asian football boss and Exco member Mohamed Bin Hammam. Earlier this month, he told a Herald journalist that he also spoke regularly with Blatter and had ''his trust''.

Some who follow football politics closely believe Hargitay's FIFA influence is overstated. One is journalist Andrew Jennings (who has worked for the BBC's respected Panorama program), who dedicated two chapters in his book about FIFA, Foul , to Hargitay. Jennings questions whether Hargitay is worth the taxpayer dollars the FFA is paying him. ''When you look at what he has actually delivered for Australia, it is hard to see anything concrete,'' he says.

For his part, Hargitay says Jennings is obsessed and has repeatedly threatened to sue him, although has never done so.

But other journalists also recently questioned Hargitay's value to Australia after Bin Hammam declared - in a statement that appeared to take the FFA by surprise - that he would not support Australia's bid to host the Cup in 2018. A short time later, the FFA said it would drop its 2018 bid and focus on 2022.

Australia's overseas lobbyists also face the reality that while there are FIFA figures seemingly open to persuasion, many FIFA bosses have wealth and connections that make them difficult to influence.

For their troubles, Radmann and Hargitay stand to pocket up to $11.37 million in taxpayer funds. Hargitay is being paid $1.35 million and his success fee is $2.542 million, while Radmann's payment, made via the Abold consulting firm, is $3.491 million (it is not clear if a portion of this will go to Abold). Radmann will pocket a $3.99 million success fee if Australia's bid is successful.

On Monday, Hargitay refused to disclose to the Herald the size of his bonus but said that the FFA paid his firm just under $44,000 a month for ''a team of three consultants and support staff''.

The Gillard government has yet to give a detailed explanation about whether it knows of and supports the manner in which the FFA is spending its money. The Minister for Sport, Kate Ellis, indicated yesterday any suggestions of wrongdoing would be investigated.

Confidential FFA spreadsheets from mid-2009 suggest the federation chose not to disclose to the government specific details of the payment structure for Hargitay and Radmann, or its plans to give $6.5 million in taxpayer funds to football bodies in Africa, Asia and Oceania.

Curiously, the same spreadsheet shows the government was given different - mostly inflated - figures than those given internally to the FFA's managers about how much public money would be spent on public relations, community relations and the preparation of Australia's bid book.

The FFA insists everything is above board and that its accounting practices are exemplary and independently audited.

''Consistent with standard management practice, FFA maintains a more comprehensive breakdown of expenditure and forecasts for day-to-day internal management purposes and accountability,'' says the chief executive of FFA, Ben Buckley.

On the question of whether overseas lobbyists should be earning large tax-payer funded fees and bonuses from Australia, Buckley is resolute.

''However you may choose to portray these consultants or regurgitate unsubstantiated stories written by others in the past, these consultants have been and remain invaluable assets to our bid,'' he says.

The FFA believes the Australian government, and public, agrees with this. The last word should be left to Hargitay, who recently stated that Australia's bid had a special obligation because it is taxpayer funded: ''This means that every single thing must be above board.''
 

midfielder

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HMMMMMMM ... interesting ... FIFA to look at our bid...from England..

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/fifa-investigate-australia-world-cup-bid-claims-2014727.html

Fifa investigate Australia World Cup bid claims

By Martyn Ziegler, Press Association


Wednesday, 30 June 2010


FIFA have confirmed they are investigating allegations that Australian World Cup bid officials handed out jewellery and paid travel costs for a Trinidad team in order to win votes.


The allegations in the Sydney Morning Telegraph quotes documents from Football Federation Australia that also details payments of up to 6.4million to consultants if the bid is successful.


A FIFA statement today said: "FIFA can confirm that it is looking into this matter. For the time being, FIFA cannot disclose any other details or make any further comment."


The most damaging allegations concern gifts of pearl necklaces for the wives of FIFA executive committee members, who will in December decide the hosts of the 2018 and 2022 World Cups, and that they funded the travel costs of Trinidad and Tobago's under-20 team to fly to Cyprus - one of FIFA's most powerful figures, Jack Warner, is from the Caribbean country.


The FFA say the necklaces and cufflinks were given at a dinner before formal bidding had started.


FFA chairman Ben Buckley said: "It is a widely accepted, common practice, among governments, many business and sporting organisations to provide symbolic gifts, to visiting international delegations."


FIFA's bidding rules allows gifts of "symbolic or incidental value" but last year the England 2018 bid had to backtrack on giving out designer handbags.
 

scottmac

Suspended
goingtoadisco said:
Why oh why do they want to ruin our chances like this.

The same thing happens at before all succesful bids. Germany before they got theirs was shrouded in controversy due to off the book dealings. If you want to win a World Cup, its what is required.
FIFA (or its delagates anyway) demands it.

Its a storm in a teacup and will pass. There is no country that has won the rights to host a world cup that hasn't pulled a few shifty and shonky deals.

I for one am pround that my taxpayer dollar is going towards shonky deals to gain the world cup.
 

MrCelery

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With Julia Gillard being a passionate Victorian aerial ping-pong supporter, what affect with that have on our bid I wonder. Hopefully she doesn't do a U-turn and give our bid money to the mining companies.
 

dibo

Well-Known Member
Yeah, and just after that she's going to liquidate the FFA and hand the proceeds to the AFL.
[/paranoid flight of fancy]
 

midfielder

Well-Known Member
I can see these articles coming until the bid is decided in December...

The Melbourne AFL media and their media connections... from the Age.. same storty different line...

Just wait until FIFA inspectors are in Australia for the Axis of Eveil (Herald Sun, 3AW, Ch 7) and our good mate from south of the boarder to keep the talk back and media going...

I can imagime the questions to any FIFA person in an Australian media scrum ...

any how to the next installment ... remember the AFL received Aid Money in SA..

Just written in a such a negative and like its kinda criminal ... manner

http://www.theage.com.au/national/overseas-aid-fund-tapped-for-world-cup-bid-20100701-zqkj.html

Overseas aid fund tapped for World Cup bid RICHARD BAKER AND NICK MCKENZIE

July 2, 2010


Geoff Thompson.

AUSTRALIA'S World Cup bid team has used the nation's foreign aid budget, and proposed appointing key FIFA officials as honorary consuls, as part of its strategy to win backing for its campaign.

The revelations come as FIFA, soccer's world governing body, announced in Johannesburg it would investigate reports in The Age that Australian bid officials handed out jewellery and paid travel costs for a Trinidad team.

Advertisement: Story continues below''FIFA can confirm that it is looking into this matter,'' it said in a statement. ''For the time being, FIFA cannot disclose any other details or make any further comment.''

The Age can reveal that federal government aid agency AusAID has agreed to help Football Federation Australia's World Cup bid and has boosted funding for aid programs in Africa and Oceania.

The FFA is trying to win support from the African and Oceania representatives on FIFA's executive committee - a group of 24 men who decide the location of the World Cup.

Government sources said the FFA last year took the extraordinary step of raising with the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade the possibility of appointing FIFA executive committee members to Australian government representative positions, known as ''honorary consuls''.

The Age understands the FFA last year discussed appointing Ivory Coast FIFA executive committee member Jacques Adamou and then-UK FIFA executive committee member Geoff Thompson to the quasi-diplomatic roles.

Mr Thompson, who recently replaced Lord David Triesman as the head of England's 2018 World Cup bid team, is reportedly close to the FFA's highly paid lobbyist, European consultant Peter Hargitay.

Under federal government rules, honorary consuls are appointed only ''where there is a demonstrated need for an Australian presence to provide consular services to Australians overseas''.

A DFAT spokesman said the government has had a range of talks with the FFA on how best to support its World Cup bid, but had ''not appointed honorary consuls in relation to the FFA bid''. DFAT sources said it was unlikely the agency would ever support the FFA request.

Documents seen by The Age reveal AusAID director-general Bruce Davis was told by senior FFA figures in March last year they were ''looking for the capacity to provide Australian aid assistance that is identifiably 'football delivered' and football relevant, though not necessarily football exclusive''.

It is understood that last year, then-prime minister Kevin Rudd, senior ministers and top public servants supported FFA's overseas strategy to help win either the 2018 or 2022 World Cups. Australia has since withdrawn its 2018 bid.

Former DFAT deputy secretary Paul Barrett said any proposal to appoint FIFA officials as honorary consuls was ''extremely improper'' and that Australia's relatively ''scarce'' aid budget should be distributed with the primary aims of reducing poverty and promoting development.

''If aid is motivated by a desire to host the World Cup, then it would fail to meet these primary aims,'' Mr Barrett said.

Australia's aid to Africa was increased at about the same time the FFA was lobbying the government behind the scenes to support its strategy of winning favour from African nations that have sway on FIFA's executive committee. In 2009-10, the government increased its aid spending in Africa by 40 per cent to $163 million, although there is no suggestion this was due to lobbying by the FFA.

It is understood the government viewed the boost in Africa aid spending as helpful for its bid to win a seat on the United Nation's Security Council.

Australia has also committed to a tenfold increase in tertiary scholarships for African students by 2012-13.

Departmental sources familiar with Mr Rudd's involvement in the bid confirmed he was told by the FFA that it was putting ''a lot of effort into Africa and the four voting members from the African continent''. They are Egypt, Ivory Coast, Cameroon and Nigeria.

In one briefing to Mr Rudd, the FFA advised: ''We have had a preliminary discussion with AusAID about a similar program in some of these [African] countries as the one we recently signed with Oceania.''

Australian embassies and high commissions in Africa have hosted cocktail parties for members of FIFA's executive committee over the past 12 months using bid funds.

AusAID has also been approached to support FFA recommended projects in Asia and the Caribbean.

In August last year the federal government announced $4 million over four years to provide ''football delivered'' aid to nations in the Pacific in partnership with the Oceania Football Confederation, which has one vote on FIFA's executive committee. The Oceania region has one FIFA executive committee member, Reynald Temarii from Tahiti.

Working with A-League sponsor Hyundai, the FFA has delivered cars to each football association in the Oceania region, except New Zealand.

The FFA's controversial multimillion-dollar European consultants, Mr Hargitay, Fedor Radmann and Andreas Abold have been strongly involved in the Africa strategy. At their suggestion, Foreign Affairs Minister Stephen Smith and Sports Minister Kate Ellis have attended FIFA junior soccer tournaments.

Mr Abold had the task of arranging for Archbishop Desmond Tutu to visit a South African hospital with FFA chairman Frank Lowy and FFA chief executive Ben Buckley late last year.

At the event, where the FFA donated $150,000 to a hospital, Archbishop Tutu declared his support for Australia. Last month in South Africa, FFA spent $160,000 providing lapdesks to township children outside Johannesburg, adding to a government program.

This week The Age revealed the FFA planned to pay up to $11.37 million in taxpayer-funded fees and bonuses to Mr Radmann and Mr Hargitay.

FIFA's executive committee will announce the successful World Cup bidders in December. The FFA has insisted its bid is above board, but declined to comment last night.
 

bjw

bjw
MrCelery said:
With Julia Gillard being a passionate Victorian aerial ping-pong supporter, what affect with that have on our bid I wonder. Hopefully she doesn't do a U-turn and give our bid money to the mining companies.

rudd was/is a massive fan of NRL (supports the Brisbane Broncos)..
 

dibo

Well-Known Member
zycie said:
MrCelery said:
With Julia Gillard being a passionate Victorian aerial ping-pong supporter, what affect with that have on our bid I wonder. Hopefully she doesn't do a U-turn and give our bid money to the mining companies.

rudd was/is a massive fan of NRL (supports the Brisbane Broncos)..

...insofar as any pollies actually care much about sport other than when they need a photo of them with a scarf on.

if both rudd and gillard wouldn't prefer to be at home with a glass of red and a good book then i'm a pink budgie.
 

midfielder

Well-Known Member
OMG... what have we done to deserve this every day another article... this one WOW words fail me... let the article speak for itself ...but Fark who has let the dogs off the leash at Fairfax ... who has upset them... and in the middle of the WC ...


In closing that Mr Rudd was helping with the bid .... Shame Shame Shame.... that we made friends with Beckenbauer ,,, arguably the best footballer Germany has ever produced ... and what every  bidding nation has been doing ... remember when SFS & MV fans were singing and fairfax said it was a riot in Hal 1 ... same kinds of thing... pure crap nay pure bullshit tarted up as truth for what reason ? ? /

Tomorrow ... FFA poison dams.... next day FFA order all first sons of each family to be sent to FIFA headquarters for whatever


http://www.smh.com.au/world-cup-2010/world-cup-news/world-cup-team-asked-rudd-to-twist-arms-20100702-zu1g.html

World Cup team asked Rudd to twist arms
RICHARD BAKER AND NICK MCKENZIE
July 3, 2010

THE federal government has been extensively involved in a backroom campaign to build alliances with Russia, Germany and other countries to promote Australia's soccer World Cup bid at the expense of its 2022 rival, the United States.

Sources close to the federal government said the former prime minister Kevin Rudd and senior officials had been involved in or were briefed on the Football Federation of Australia's strategy to establish agreements and get backing from Germany, Russia and Indonesia.

Mr Rudd was told about the FFA's close relationship with German football officials and the FFA asked him to raise Australia's bid with President Dmitry Medvedev of Russia, a rival bidder for the 2022 event.

Australia's memorandum of understanding with Indonesia's Football Association was signed earlier this year with its chief, the convicted fraudster Nurdin Halid, who spent time in jail on corruption charges. Last month he threw his support behind Australia after Indonesia withdrew its 2022 bid.

The FFA also wants to win support from the African and Oceania representatives on FIFA's executive committee, a group of 24 men who decide the cup's location. The FFA pushed for Mr Rudd's help, telling him about the potent ''Obama factor'' in the US bid for 2022.

Other bidding nations routinely use similar tactics, making agreements not directly connected to the bid and offering gifts to football officials.

FIFA rules say bidders can give gifts of ''symbolic'' value but they must ''exclude any influence on a decision in relation to the bidding process''.

Bidders are also forbidden from criticising rivals or making deals to trade support before the FIFA executive committee votes in December.

The chief executive of the FFA, Ben Buckley, said this week that ''all such agreements'' sought by Australia complied with FIFA regulations.

He also said that any moves to ''advance relations [were] intended to ensure co-operation and support''.

The Herald understands the FFA has an internal strategy to monitor any improper alliances being formed among other bidders and will publicise any collusion and report it to FIFA.

Sources close to the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet have told the Herald that at the FFA's request, Mr Rudd had raised the bid with Mr Medvedev at last year's G20 summit. Mr Rudd was also asked to raise the possibility of ''Russia and us working together'' and to invite the president to Australia.

Documents obtained by the Herald show Mr Rudd was told ''this personal approach could then be used as a mechanism to engage the Russian Football Federation''.

Mr Rudd was also briefed on Australia's agreement with Germany's football association, in a deal arranged in part with the FIFA powerbroker and former soccer star Franz Beckenbauer.

The revelation of close ties between the FFA and Mr Beckenbauer - who has publicly described Australia's bid as ''perfect'' - may prompt rival nations to question the association, given the rules against making deals or trading support, and stipulations that FIFA executive committee members are required to remain objective.
 

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