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2018 world cup qualifiers
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Capn Gus Bloodbeard
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If we make it into the WC, all we're doing is making up the numbers. We were impotent up front - couldn't even convert our chances. International level should be much, much better.
a 0-0 draw is practically a victory for Honduras - it puts them into a better position than us. It may well be that the super-expensive flight will make the difference.
As for the overturned penalty - I think it was never a penalty so the ref got out of gaol. My best guess is that the AR incorrectly flagged for offside (he was utterly incompetent and doesn't understand the offside law anyway - he flagged for passive offside way too often).
I loved how the ref didn't put up with the Honduras team mobbing him to argue. This sport desperately, desperately needs every referee to take the same approach. And if every ref did, it'd change the culture overnight.
a 0-0 draw is practically a victory for Honduras - it puts them into a better position than us. It may well be that the super-expensive flight will make the difference.
As for the overturned penalty - I think it was never a penalty so the ref got out of gaol. My best guess is that the AR incorrectly flagged for offside (he was utterly incompetent and doesn't understand the offside law anyway - he flagged for passive offside way too often).
I loved how the ref didn't put up with the Honduras team mobbing him to argue. This sport desperately, desperately needs every referee to take the same approach. And if every ref did, it'd change the culture overnight.
I with you Capn don’t feel that hard down by for the Pen decision. Have concerns about Juric’s other chances that went begging and now puts us under more pressure to score in Sydney so hope it isn’t another Thailand episode.
I liked the ref as well and he handled the Hounduras gamesmanship diving very well, would be good if we had him again. The Assistant Refs were the worst i’ve seen letting some of them be well off side numerous times.
I liked the ref as well and he handled the Hounduras gamesmanship diving very well, would be good if we had him again. The Assistant Refs were the worst i’ve seen letting some of them be well off side numerous times.
I think i saw we have an argie for next game. That may suit them.
One of those passive offsides favoured us. They had a nice break down the wing but CF was off in the middle, ball no where near him and he flagged it.
You don’t want to be chasing in the 2nd leg and we aren’t so not that bad but a counter attack goal can kill us and we have been letting them in constantly
One of those passive offsides favoured us. They had a nice break down the wing but CF was off in the middle, ball no where near him and he flagged it.
You don’t want to be chasing in the 2nd leg and we aren’t so not that bad but a counter attack goal can kill us and we have been letting them in constantly
Capn Gus Bloodbeard
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All it takes is a single penalty in Honduras favour, which is a momentary lapse in concentration by a defender or even a dive/refereeing error, and suddenly we need to score 2 goals.
It's a worry.
It's a worry.
true believer
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i did last time when we qualified .
sydmariner
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is anyone going into the active bay?.
pjennings
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From a few days ago
NOVEMBER 10 2017
World Cup Qualifier: Socceroos' goalkeeper Mat Ryan idolised Danny Vukovic at school
San Pedro Sula: Danny Vukovic didn't know him at the time, but a 12-year-old kid watched across the playground wanting to emulate him at high school. Vukovic was in year 12 at Westfields Sports High and had already landed a contract with Parramatta Power in the National Soccer League, when another child starting year seven at the football institution in Sydney's west began looking to him for inspiration.
Word travels fast in schoolyards and with Vukovic on the cusp of turning professional and his name about to be etched on the honour roll, a young Mat Ryan had already decided those were the footsteps he wanted to follow.
Safe hands: Socceroos goalkeeper Mat Ryan. Photo: FFA
"I grew up pretty much idolising him," Ryan said. "He went to my school at Westfields and European football was past my bedtime when it was on so I wasn't really watching too much of it."
The two didn't cross paths until years later but shared a similarity in that they were both pupils of goalkeeping coach, John Crawley. It was Vukovic's desire to stay under his guidance that prompted him to move north from Sydney to join the Central Coast Mariners at the start of the A-League three years later.
Danny Vukovic is now at Belgian club Genk – Mat Ryan's former stomping ground. Photo: FFA
"I truly believe that he [Crawley] is the best goalkeeper coach in Australia. His track record with goalkeepers speaks for itself. He just has a real knack for developing goalkeepers and getting the best out of them," Vukovic said.
It was there Vukovic first heard mention of his No.1 fan. He was told about the prodigal talent at his former school that Crawley was still guiding.
"I distinctly remember John Crawley talking about Mat. John was still coaching at Westfield Sports High School while he was my goalkeeper coach at Central Coast Mariners. He said that he has a special goalkeeper at school and Mat is who he was talking about," Vukovic said.
"It's an honour to be anyone's idol. It's something that I don't take lightly and it's nice to hear those words."
Ryan couldn't wait past the age of 17 to follow Vukovic up the Pacific Highway to further his development under Crawley at the Mariners. For the first time, the master and apprentice trained alongside each other.
"Danny was up there from the beginning and playing. From then, I started supporting the Mariners from the beginning," Ryan said. "I was in the youth team and fortunate enough to work with him as a young guy, training with him."
The trio spent just one season together before a deal to join Turkish club Genclerbirligi pried Vukovic away from the Central Coast, only for his contract to be terminated months later. His departure gave Ryan a shot at becoming the club's No.1 at the age of 18.
It wasn't until this year the two were reunited for the Socceroos. Ryan had gone from admirer to the starting goalkeeper, while a long, often difficult, career for Vukovic had started providing the deserved rewards in the form of an A-League championship and international call-up.
For 32-year-old Vukovic, he isn't surprised that he's now looking up to his former apprentice.
"I remember back to when he was a young keeper and he was starting at the Mariners. He would make an early error in the game and then go on to have a man-of-the-match performance. That certainly stood out to me back then," he said.
Ryan hasn't forgotten where they came from either and after leaving Belgium club Genk at the end of his loan deal in June, he made every effort to ensure they replaced him with the goalkeeper he wanted to become.
"I knew they were going to be looking for a goalkeeper ... and they asked me about Danny. I just said my honest opinion about him. I'm not saying my word influenced anything but he did that on his own accord," Ryan said. "I'm happy for him that he's finding his feet over there and doing well."
For 10 of the last 11 games, the two have trained together with the Socceroos. Time nor distance has strained their bond. At the Socceroos' final training session before their play-off match against Honduras, it was telling the two placed their yoga mats alongside one another during their warm-up stretches at the Estadio Olimpico in San Pedro Sula.
"Thankfully now we have this relationship playing for the Socceroos, it's a nice journey and he's a great guy away from football and he's a great professional in football," Ryan said.
Those footsteps he followed in Fairfield school grounds could now take him to Russia.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/...-danny-vukovic-at-school-20171109-gzijst.html
NOVEMBER 10 2017
World Cup Qualifier: Socceroos' goalkeeper Mat Ryan idolised Danny Vukovic at school
San Pedro Sula: Danny Vukovic didn't know him at the time, but a 12-year-old kid watched across the playground wanting to emulate him at high school. Vukovic was in year 12 at Westfields Sports High and had already landed a contract with Parramatta Power in the National Soccer League, when another child starting year seven at the football institution in Sydney's west began looking to him for inspiration.
Word travels fast in schoolyards and with Vukovic on the cusp of turning professional and his name about to be etched on the honour roll, a young Mat Ryan had already decided those were the footsteps he wanted to follow.
Safe hands: Socceroos goalkeeper Mat Ryan. Photo: FFA
"I grew up pretty much idolising him," Ryan said. "He went to my school at Westfields and European football was past my bedtime when it was on so I wasn't really watching too much of it."
The two didn't cross paths until years later but shared a similarity in that they were both pupils of goalkeeping coach, John Crawley. It was Vukovic's desire to stay under his guidance that prompted him to move north from Sydney to join the Central Coast Mariners at the start of the A-League three years later.
Danny Vukovic is now at Belgian club Genk – Mat Ryan's former stomping ground. Photo: FFA
"I truly believe that he [Crawley] is the best goalkeeper coach in Australia. His track record with goalkeepers speaks for itself. He just has a real knack for developing goalkeepers and getting the best out of them," Vukovic said.
It was there Vukovic first heard mention of his No.1 fan. He was told about the prodigal talent at his former school that Crawley was still guiding.
"I distinctly remember John Crawley talking about Mat. John was still coaching at Westfield Sports High School while he was my goalkeeper coach at Central Coast Mariners. He said that he has a special goalkeeper at school and Mat is who he was talking about," Vukovic said.
"It's an honour to be anyone's idol. It's something that I don't take lightly and it's nice to hear those words."
Ryan couldn't wait past the age of 17 to follow Vukovic up the Pacific Highway to further his development under Crawley at the Mariners. For the first time, the master and apprentice trained alongside each other.
"Danny was up there from the beginning and playing. From then, I started supporting the Mariners from the beginning," Ryan said. "I was in the youth team and fortunate enough to work with him as a young guy, training with him."
The trio spent just one season together before a deal to join Turkish club Genclerbirligi pried Vukovic away from the Central Coast, only for his contract to be terminated months later. His departure gave Ryan a shot at becoming the club's No.1 at the age of 18.
It wasn't until this year the two were reunited for the Socceroos. Ryan had gone from admirer to the starting goalkeeper, while a long, often difficult, career for Vukovic had started providing the deserved rewards in the form of an A-League championship and international call-up.
For 32-year-old Vukovic, he isn't surprised that he's now looking up to his former apprentice.
"I remember back to when he was a young keeper and he was starting at the Mariners. He would make an early error in the game and then go on to have a man-of-the-match performance. That certainly stood out to me back then," he said.
Ryan hasn't forgotten where they came from either and after leaving Belgium club Genk at the end of his loan deal in June, he made every effort to ensure they replaced him with the goalkeeper he wanted to become.
"I knew they were going to be looking for a goalkeeper ... and they asked me about Danny. I just said my honest opinion about him. I'm not saying my word influenced anything but he did that on his own accord," Ryan said. "I'm happy for him that he's finding his feet over there and doing well."
For 10 of the last 11 games, the two have trained together with the Socceroos. Time nor distance has strained their bond. At the Socceroos' final training session before their play-off match against Honduras, it was telling the two placed their yoga mats alongside one another during their warm-up stretches at the Estadio Olimpico in San Pedro Sula.
"Thankfully now we have this relationship playing for the Socceroos, it's a nice journey and he's a great guy away from football and he's a great professional in football," Ryan said.
Those footsteps he followed in Fairfield school grounds could now take him to Russia.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/...-danny-vukovic-at-school-20171109-gzijst.html
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Insertnamehere
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Taken about a thousand SB specials for tonight, Hopefully snag one that involves the roos qualifying and still pays $67
Holy
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Just got to Strathfield, plenty of support. Can't wait. Still on high from last Friday, may it continue tonight
true believer
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the one constant in every world cup game .
harpers hysterical commentary
harpers hysterical commentary
JoyfulPenguin
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Don't mind it too much to be honest, is a good contrast to a more measured Simon Hill.
true believer
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goals by the mariners 3
true believer
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WHAT IMPACT WILL AUSTRALIA HAVE IN THE WORLD CUP ?
BETTER THAN ITALY
BETTER THAN ITALY
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