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The Price of Inequality

midfielder

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From news which is interesting as they normally don’t go down this path … this is a good article.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/mone...uld-be-an-endies/story-e6frfmci-1227060209531

Are you too poor to have any fun in your own city? You could be an ENDIES

Can’t afford to leave the couch?

Can’t afford to leave the couch? Source: Getty Images

THERE’S a new acronym making the rounds today.

It’s ENDIES. It stands for Employed but No Disposable Income or Savings. So there’s not really a second ‘E’ in the acronym but someone probably thought it sounded better than ENDIS or ENDIOS. But we digress.

ENDIES has been coined by a British think tank to describe people in London who are gainfully employed but, because of their incomes, can barely afford to live in the expensive city they call home. The report’s authors, Centre for London, pegged those incomes at between £22,000 ($A39,526) and £30,000 ($A53,899).

The introduction to the report sounded eerily similar to how many Australians are living: “People in London earning modest incomes are caught in a vicious trap from which they cannot break free.

“Their earnings are kept flat by a fiercely competitive labour market, while living costs — particularly housing, transport and childcare — have risen sharply. As a result, they find themselves working hard to stand still and often feel they are going backwards. Many are slowly falling into debt and few have confidence about the future.”

The report paints a grim and familiar picture.

Now, London is a city with cost of living challenges not too different from our own capitals; where the grumbles of how much everything costs can be heard in every living room and pub. So do we have our very tribe of ENDIES right here in Australia?

Are you breaking the bank just to pay a bill?

Are you breaking the bank just to pay a bill? Source: Getty Images

The income levels set by the British study are fairly comparable to the level of income in Australia where those earning that amount (between $39,000 and $53,000) would be acutely feeling many of the same challenges. The Australian minimum wage is even lower at a shade above $33,000.

There are two groups of Australians who could very well call themselves ENDIES — graduates and lower income workers.

“In Australia, we have a very similar thing,” demographer and social commentator Mark McCrindle told news.com.au. “We have a whole generation of university graduates in that situation. The average starting salary for graduates is around the $50,000 mark. Within a few years, they could be on $60,000 or $80,000 but many of them start at $50,000.

“Gen Y are starting on good salaries but they’re often starting with debt from HECS, credit cards or lifestyle debt. It’s very different from their parents.”

Mr McCrindle explained that earlier generations often bought property early on their working lives which gave them both the discipline of putting money into the mortgage and an asset that appreciated in value.

He said: “Gen Y are starting later — they often study for longer — and many of them don’t start saving until their mid-to-late-20s. When they do start, they’re not buying property because there’s an affordability challenge. They can’t afford to buy close to work so they rent.

“The cycle is relegating many of them to be asset poor despite their incomes. They’ll enjoy the journey but won’t have much at the end of it. They’re earning more than their parents were but they’re doing worse than their parents.”

Was this your lunch today?

Was this your lunch today? Source: Getty Images

Mr McCrindle said it comes down to affordability. He said: “If you go back to 1973, the average capital city house price was five times earnings. But wages have not kept pace with property prices. By 1993, property prices were six times that of earnings and today it’s 10 times.”

But university graduates aren’t the only ones who can count themselves among the ENDIES. The other group are those on lower incomes. The average full time salary in Australia is just under $75,000 while the average salary (taking into account part-timers) is $57,980. For those under the average wage and living in a capital city, it’s difficult to get ahead of the cycle of earning just enough to get by.

Mr McCrindle pointed out that not only are the costs of everything in existing categories going up, there is a whole slew of new costs previous generations didn’t have to deal with — broadband internet, mobile technology, tolls etc.

Carmel Franklin, chairperson of Financial Counselling Australia, said financial counsellors had been dealing with people in this category for years. “It’s very much the same here as in the UK, particularly in the capital cities,” she said.

For ENDIES, wanting to live within a reasonable distance to work usually means squeezing

For ENDIES, wanting to live within a reasonable distance to work usually means squeezing everything into a studio apartment.


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midfielder

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“They’re people who are working so they’re not eligible for any concessions or rent assistance, but they also might not have an income high enough to get a mortgage, so a lot of them are paying a huge amount of their income in the private rental market.”

Ms Franklin said people in this “working poor” category have enough to scrape by but inevitably run into unexpected costs such as a car breakdown or medical expenses, which may have to be paid on the credit card.

“You may not have enough to pay the amount in full, so suddenly you’re paying interest on interest to cover your ongoing costs, and it becomes a cycle. It’s like you’re running to stay still.”

She said learning how to budget properly was important, but also being aware of hardship schemes available. “If you’re behind on your electricity bill, rather than paying on your credit card and paying interest, contact the utility and try to arrange for an alternative payment scheme,” she said.

The biggest factor by far is housing affordability, Ms Franklin added, which means both government and industry have a role to play. “It’s not a problem that’s going to be solved overnight.”

The cost of housing appears to be the primary pressure point for ENDIES, especially in more expensive cities such as Sydney, Melbourne, Perth or Darwin. The median house price in Sydney is now $812,000, followed by Darwin at $655,000.

NATSEM principal research fellow Ben Phillips said someone living in one of the more expensive capital cities on the minimum wage of $33,000 has almost no prospect of ever buying their own home.
 

dibo

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My partner and I are doing pretty well, combined income of six figures, nearly six figures of savings etc. and we still have what can be termed a 'lifestyle' rather than a subsistence existence. We're also very lucky in that I've been in the same flat in Stanmore for 10 years and the rent is *very* reasonable - there are one-bedders in the neighbourhood being rented for more than our two-bedder.

Nevertheless, the cost of living in Sydney means we're still not able to feasibly buy property down here in Sydney without taking on much greater debt and risk than we're comfortable with. Consequently, as we weigh up things like buying property and having Dib-lets, we're likely to move home to the Central Coast and take on the commuting life...

It's one of the reasons I bang on incessantly about wanting to see greater jobs and investment on the Coast - it would be great if people like me didn't see it as a pretty automatic thing that you finish school and move to Sydney to study and work and move back when you can't afford property. It'd be good if there were more opportunities for people in that early adulthood - 18-35 or so - to live and thrive in Gosford. It shouldn't feel like a fall-back option, but because of the commute etc. it sorta does.
 

midfielder

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I have often looked how the second Sydney airport could be on the Coast instead of WS ... it would bring tens of thousand of jobs ...
 

nearlyyellow

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Nevertheless, the cost of living in Sydney means we're still not able to feasibly buy property down here in Sydney without taking on much greater debt and risk than we're comfortable with. Consequently, as we weigh up things like buying property and having Dib-lets, we're likely to move home to the Central Coast and take on the commuting life...

It's one of the reasons I bang on incessantly about wanting to see greater jobs and investment on the Coast - it would be great if people like me didn't see it as a pretty automatic thing that you finish school and move to Sydney to study and work and move back when you can't afford property. It'd be good if there were more opportunities for people in that early adulthood - 18-35 or so - to live and thrive in Gosford. It shouldn't feel like a fall-back option, but because of the commute etc. it sorta does.
Kudos to you for that attitude. I have just retired after almost a working lifetime of commuting to Sydney city and the Crows Nest/Artarmon area. Let's see, We moved up here in 1978 so that means I commuted for 35 years, sometimes by train, sometimes by car, well, actually, mostly by car, company parking, company car then a novated lease, etc. It's a tough life commuting. It can be more productive than most think, especially on the trains, what with all today's media capable tech.
And the Coast *is* a great place to raise the kids. My kids (adults now) wouldn't have had it any other way. One is self employed on the coast and the other lives in Greater Sydney and works for a very large Korean electronics company. So when those "dib-lets" come along you will have chosen a less frenetic and hopefully nicer town to raise them.
We do need much more local employment such as would come from your other post about DA's for Gosford and Wyong, so fingers crossed some of it goes to completion.
 

dibo

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I have often looked how the second Sydney airport could be on the Coast instead of WS ... it would bring tens of thousand of jobs ...
A real second Sydney airport needs to be inside Sydney - Badgery's is perfect. It can be built bigger than we'd manage at Warnervale, and it's right near the M7 (and the proposed M9) so it's better connected to transport than a CC based airport would be.

That said, there are good arguments to be had for building a bigger airport at Warnervale, and its proximity to the F3/M1 and the northern rail line means it could be an excellent freight hub as well as supporting the Central Coast's tourism industry. I wouldn't expect something bigger than Newcastle Airport there though.
 

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