Salary cap Increases

[midfielder]

Article in the Daily Terror seems more a re arrangement of how things are currently done ..... from my reading the salary cap has increased by the same amount the service agreements have gone down and the NYL the salary cap is still the same but can be spread across more players... seems to make sense ..


LOL parts in the article is Con saying why players left the SCUM ... who is he Kidding.


http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,24762212-5006068,00.html

Christmas bonus for A-League
Article from: The Daily Telegraph


By John Taylor

December 07, 2008 12:00am

A-LEAGUE clubs have given the thumbs up to a $350,000 increase in the salary cap after Football Federation Australia reviewed the allocation of funds to service agreements.

With two new clubs, Gold Coast and Townsville Fury, entering a 10-team league next season, FFA has decided to raise the salary cap from $1.9million to $2.25million and lower the additional service agreements of $500,000 by half.

CEO Ben Buckley said it was a very positive move and would give clubs more flexibility in the player payment system.

"We see it as an impact allowing clubs to structure player contracts,'' Buckley said yesterday.

Central Coast Mariners and Newcastle Jets, Australia's representatives in the Asian Champions League next year, and this year's ACL beaten finalists Adelaide were strong advocates of abolishing the service agreements, which are payments outside the salary cap.

Mariners executive chairman Lyall Gorman said yesterday "There's a lot of unnecessary administration involved in the service agreements. We wouldn't mind if it went a step further and that money go towards the cap. We'd be comfortable with that. Anyway, it gives us a level of comfort where we are heading.''

No one disliked the service agreements more than Newcastle Jets owner Con Constantine.

Jets CEO John Tsatsimas said yesterday that Constantine welcomed the rise in the cap and also made it blatantly clear Newcastle did not lose some of their best players - and are about to lose more high-profile players - just because their chairman refused to use the services agreements to top-up player wages.What a load of BS.

"There are two major issues here. When we won the championship, clubs started chasing our players. They were in demand,'' Tsatsimas said.

"Secondly, with two new clubs coming in next season they had the money to throw around and we just couldn't compete.''

Also four of those players - Mark Bridge, Stuart Musialik, Adam Griffiths and Jade North - wanted "out clauses''. The exception was Andrew Durante.

FFA has also taken on board a suggestion by Queensland coach Frank Farina to change the policy of having just one under-23 marquee player on a maximum $150,000 salary exempt from the cap.

Clubs will now be able to pay three under-23 players a little more in that total of $150,000.

"There's a lot of merit in the concept - it shares the wealth,'' Mariners CEO Gorman said.

Clubs may be allowed five foreigners from anywhere next season to enlarge the talent pool, although Asian Football Confederation regulations stipulate three foreigners plus one player from Asia.

FFA has concerns about the drop in crowds this season and are waiting on results of market research. Buckley says the global financial crisis is one factor for the decline in attendances but the FFA plans to re-boot the A-League with a new marketing campaign.

 

[adz]

Jets CEO John Tsatsimas said yesterday that Constantine welcomed the rise in the cap and also made it blatantly clear Newcastle did not lose some of their best players - and are about to lose more high-profile players - just because their chairman refused to use the services agreements to top-up player wages.What a load of BS.

explain?

 

[loyalist]

so the service agreement is being decreased 250k whilst the cap is being raised 350k
so it works out to be an increase of 100k ?

 

[fedelta]

good use of coloured fonts

 

[midfielder]

Jets CEO John Tsatsimas said yesterday that Constantine welcomed the rise in the cap and also made it blatantly clear Newcastle did not lose some of their best players - and are about to lose more high-profile players - just because their chairman refused to use the services agreements to top-up player wages.What a load of BS.

explain?

No ..... if you need to ask you will never understand

 

[adz]

Jets CEO John Tsatsimas said yesterday that Constantine welcomed the rise in the cap and also made it blatantly clear Newcastle did not lose some of their best players - and are about to lose more high-profile players - just because their chairman refused to use the services agreements to top-up player wages.What a load of BS.

explain?

No ..... if you need to ask you will never understand

Would you like to try that one again?

 

[Redline]

I'm not up on all the technicalities of players wages. How do the Service Agreements work?

 

[dbryant]

I'm not up on all the technicalities of players wages. How do the Service Agreements work?

From http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/88091,blog-clives-the-cure-to-aleague-ailments.aspx :

"In my view the additional service agreement (allowing top-up payments to players through third-party sponsorships) should be overhauled with the money re-distributed to the salary cap proper."

 

[Redline]

Sounds a bit 'hush hush under the table brown paper bag" but I'm sure it's not....obviously.

 

[midfielder]

Jets CEO John Tsatsimas said yesterday that Constantine welcomed the rise in the cap and also made it blatantly clear Newcastle did not lose some of their best players - and are about to lose more high-profile players - just because their chairman refused to use the services agreements to top-up player wages.What a load of BS.

explain?

No ..... if you need to ask you will never understand

Would you like to try that one again?

Best said by a Jets fan ...... taken from another site..... Mick from Newcastle's post.

Re the Jets, it is all about Con. He had enough cash to build the team but I suspect he is unwilling to lose even more money to rebuild the team. He refuses to use the allied agreements, he refuses to cap transfer fees in contracts. Other clubs are prepared to do these things so players are lost. He is a lone wolf, he has very little sponsorship or corporate support, he appears unwilling or incapable of engaging with the business community. He refuses to consider taking on additional equity to supplement the coffers.

He treats the Jets like his expensive toy, we are grateful because we get a football team.  The problem is his business model is outdated. He sees transfer fees as the way of getting a return. The players dont want a bar of this sort of club and get out. Cons model is completely unsustainable. If he dies or pulls the pin tomorrow the club disappears. I just hope the FFA have a contingency plan in place if Con ever pulls the pin although I suspect Newcastle is viewed as a nice to have but not essential part of the HAL.

Van Egmond must take some responsibility for the bad visa player recruitment. But in my view visa players should be used to supplement their core squad. The Jets have had to use visa players to plug massive holes in the squad. I dont expect him to keep pumping $$ in. I would like to see him develop a sustainable club that engages better with sponsors, is open to injection of capital if required and deals with its players in a way that makes the club an employer of choice not one of last resort. If he did that I reckon he could build a sustainable club that is not reliant on his chequebook.

I dont expect him to keep pumping $$ in. The only alternative unfortunately is if Con wants further success he will need to spend his own $$ because to this stage he has shown an inability to leverage the clubs success nit other revenue streams.

Sponsors choose to give money to sporting teams and clubs must generate that support. For all the community goodwill towards the Jets the club has been unable to convert that into real sponsorship income. Why? Mostly Con. Let me say he is a very unusual character.

Re fans the support of the Jets has been pretty good but again you have to give fans a hope that more success will come. The loss of key players in the off season meant they lost momentum from the championship.

I hope he can transition the club to where we would like A-League teams to be. Unfortunately I dont believe he is able to do it.

 

[FFC Mariner]

Bloody good post IMHO, obviously not a squadrunt.

The only thing I disagree with is what happens if Con goes. I reckon there would be a flood of interest from all the investors/sponsors who wont touch him with a barge pole.

 

[midfielder]

Bloody good post IMHO, obviously not a squadrunt.

The only thing I disagree with is what happens if Con goes. I reckon there would be a flood of interest from all the investors/sponsors who wont touch him with a barge pole.

No Mick is a thinking Jets supporter ( maybe the only thinking Jets supporter) . I agree with you on if Con left I think he could be replaced as I think because of its past history the stadium it plays at the local media as a franchise it would be one of the safest just needs someone in charge who is capable and as Mick said "Con. Let me say he is a very unusual character" 

 

[adz]

Jets CEO John Tsatsimas said yesterday that Constantine welcomed the rise in the cap and also made it blatantly clear Newcastle did not lose some of their best players - and are about to lose more high-profile players - just because their chairman refused to use the services agreements to top-up player wages.What a load of BS.

explain?

No ..... if you need to ask you will never understand

Would you like to try that one again?

Best said by a Jets fan ...... taken from another site..... Mick from Newcastle's post.

Re the Jets, it is all about Con. He had enough cash to build the team but I suspect he is unwilling to lose even more money to rebuild the team. He refuses to use the allied agreements, he refuses to cap transfer fees in contracts. Other clubs are prepared to do these things so players are lost. He is a lone wolf, he has very little sponsorship or corporate support, he appears unwilling or incapable of engaging with the business community. He refuses to consider taking on additional equity to supplement the coffers.

He treats the Jets like his expensive toy, we are grateful because we get a football team.  The problem is his business model is outdated. He sees transfer fees as the way of getting a return. The players dont want a bar of this sort of club and get out. Cons model is completely unsustainable. If he dies or pulls the pin tomorrow the club disappears. I just hope the FFA have a contingency plan in place if Con ever pulls the pin although I suspect Newcastle is viewed as a nice to have but not essential part of the HAL.

Van Egmond must take some responsibility for the bad visa player recruitment. But in my view visa players should be used to supplement their core squad. The Jets have had to use visa players to plug massive holes in the squad. I dont expect him to keep pumping $$ in. I would like to see him develop a sustainable club that engages better with sponsors, is open to injection of capital if required and deals with its players in a way that makes the club an employer of choice not one of last resort. If he did that I reckon he could build a sustainable club that is not reliant on his chequebook.

I dont expect him to keep pumping $$ in. The only alternative unfortunately is if Con wants further success he will need to spend his own $$ because to this stage he has shown an inability to leverage the clubs success nit other revenue streams.

Sponsors choose to give money to sporting teams and clubs must generate that support. For all the community goodwill towards the Jets the club has been unable to convert that into real sponsorship income. Why? Mostly Con. Let me say he is a very unusual character.

Re fans the support of the Jets has been pretty good but again you have to give fans a hope that more success will come. The loss of key players in the off season meant they lost momentum from the championship.

I hope he can transition the club to where we would like A-League teams to be. Unfortunately I dont believe he is able to do it.

Nice one, thanks for that. That was a good read, although it doesn't prove your statement at all. You said the reason the Jets are losing high profile players is just because their chairman refused to use the services agreements to top-up player wages, then went on to outline a number of reasons the Jets are failing, but I don't see any mention of service agreements in there. Who doesn't understand what now?

 

[midfielder]

ADZ
"Jets CEO John Tsatsimas said yesterday that Constantine welcomed the rise in the cap and also made it blatantly clear Newcastle did not lose some of their best players - and are about to lose more high-profile players - just because their chairman refused to use the services agreements to top-up player wages."

Mick of Newcastle said

... "He refuses to use the allied agreements", ... latter  "He is a lone wolf" .. " The problem is his business model is outdated. He sees transfer fees as the way of getting a return. The players dont want a bar of this sort of club and get out. Cons model is completely unsustainable" ..Con should do. " deals with its players in a way that makes the club an employer of choice not one of last resort."

So in Mick of Newcastle says it better than me ... I still say what John Tsatsimas said is Bull

 

[adz]

It doesn't mean it's the only reason they're leaving *yawn* are you saying that if they bumped up their pay a few grand with service agreements the players would stay?

 

[tuftman]

It doesn't mean it's the only reason they're leaving *yawn* are you saying that if they bumped up their pay a few grand with service agreements the players would stay?

I agree, a few extra grand wouldnt compensate for the apparent disharmony within the squad, why stay at a club that is...for lack of a better word...depressive(feel free to come up with a better adjective, nothing is coming to mind atm)...when you can earn similar or better money at a team that isnt on the slide, and suffering from internal issues(lol Bridge and Musialik @ Sydney, kinda kill this argument) but you get my point?

 

[Jesus]

an extra 500k would have probably allowed them to hold onto a couple more of their players. They are retarded for not using it.

But there is only 200k outside the cap from next season, so scum should be able to field a better team than this year. And ACL should help them attract players.

Is a win win for the league though, service agreements favour melb and sydney. Since you need sponsors etc to pay them, and club owners can not.

Since that is now more minimalised should only even out the league more. PFA will be happy as they have campaigned to have it completely scrapped