Another Northern Sydney article; Charlesworth wants CCM in world’s top 100 clubs for development

[midfielder]

This could have gone into a couple of other threads... and is mentioned in the academy thread...

But one statement drove home to me a huge ambition...

Charlesworth set an ambitious target of being in the world’s top 100 clubs for development by the time of the next World Cup.

The article is essentially about getting an extra 4 to 5 K fans from Northern Sydney which would make us a powerful club...

http://www.news.com.au/sport/footba...neys-north-shore/story-fnk9a3dc-1227111264967

THE Mariners are making a fresh and provocative attempt to steal territory from Sydney FC, opening an academy on the north shore and targeting several thousand fans to attend the Central Coast’s home games.

Adamant he would “welcome” a battle for hearts and minds with Sydney FC, Mariners owner Mike Charlesworth said his club had to “fish where the fish are” as he bids to broaden its appeal.

Under the terms of the deal struck with Northbridge FC, the Mariners will provide coaches for the best youth players, including a coach signed from Portuguese giants Sporting Lisbon, as Charlesworth set an ambitious target of being in the world’s top 100 clubs for development by the time of the next World Cup.

But he was open about the parallel motives for the venture, which he said was equally about promoting the Mariners brand into new areas. The Central Coast play Melbourne Victory at North Sydney Oval in December, part of what Charlesworth called a program of engagement with the community.

“From a commercial point of view, it’s a market we have got to move into, while from talent point of view, there are 50,000 registered players there, that don’t really associate themselves with an A-League club,” Charlesworth said.

“We believe Northbridge is the biggest football club in the southern hemisphere in terms of registered players, with some 2500 at the club.

It’s all about player development for them and for us it’s finding talent and giving it the best chances. But there is a commercial aspect as well.

“We have to find a model that makes the Mariners sustainable and you know how challenging that is at the moment.”
Charlesworth said the project proved his intention to stay the course with the club, as he seeks to attract a wider audience to its matches.

Setting up shop in an area more usually associated with Sydney FC, Charlesworth said he hoped it would spark a reaction from the Sky Blues.

“I want to get the day when you have 4k or 5k fans from northern Sydney heading up the freeway to Gosford,” he said.
“We’ve just invested $20m in our Centre of Excellence, that’s our home, our physical home and our spiritual home. But we’ve got to go fishing where the fish are.

“I welcome that, competition is good and competition in the north shore is good for the local football community there.
“I’m not a believer in football having set in geographical boundaries. Fans are fans, we want rivalry. Kids and families support Sydney, Mariners and the Wanderers.

“But we just can’t come in and put an occasional game on there and say come and be our fans, it doesn’t work like that.
“We need to engage with the community properly.”

 

[sydmariner]

This could have gone into a couple of other threads... and is mentioned in the academy thread...

But one statement drove home to me a huge ambition...

Charlesworth set an ambitious target of being in the world’s top 100 clubs for development by the time of the next World Cup.

The article is essentially about getting an extra 4 to 5 K fans from Northern Sydney which would make us a powerful club...

How's he supposed achieve that when he wants to sell out the club & relocate to Nrth sydney

 

[Atomic]

As much as I detest the thought of us being anything else but Central Coast, I get what MC is doing, and on the face of it, it makes sense to me.

The important paragraphs from the article are:

“I want to get the day when you have 4k or 5k fans from northern Sydney heading up the freeway to Gosford,” he said.
“We’ve just invested $20m in our Centre of Excellence, that’s our home, our physical home and our spiritual home.

 

[midfielder]

As much as I detest the thought of us being anything else but Central Coast, I get what MC is doing, and on the face of it, it makes sense to me.

The important paragraphs from the article are:

“I want to get the day when you have 4k or 5k fans from northern Sydney heading up the freeway to Gosford,” he said.
“We’ve just invested $20m in our Centre of Excellence, that’s our home, our physical home and our spiritual home.

I agree and the idea of people from Northern Sydney we are quite close to them... we are closer in time than SFC and it would be line ball for those on the NSL to WSW .... Many are Rugby folk live in this area and today many Rugby folk are changing codes ... and the private schools on the north side are playing more Football today than Rugby ... it is a very interesting market and like Atomic I can see the logic.

Sydmariner ... the only links I have seen is Charlesworth wanting new investors ... you may be right he wants to sell I suggest assuming we survive until the next media deal our club with an operating COE and the new media deal will be worth a lot more than it is now... and we are talking one maybe two years away ...

 

[MrCelery]

Good on him for enlarging the catchment area. He should also consider expanding north to include Lake Macquarie, a growing population and only one hours pleasant drive away. Add bonus is that he would be sucking fans away from the Scum.

 

[tsd]

well we ranked 133 at the last world cup so i don't think its that ambitious, IF the socceroos qualify that is!

note: by my calculations we would have ranked in the top 100 if Sainsbury or Rogic had of played and if Ryan, Amini and Sainsbury take part in 2018 we will be top 50!

EDIT: just to clarify for those curious, the youth development rankings at the world cup are determined by player appearances for U23, based on number of players and games played, so this world cup we got points for Matt Ryan and Bozanic not Jedi or Wilko. So even with no new player developments, if Amini, sainsbury and ryan find themselves in the squad in 4 years, 3 players who played a solid 3-4 years each in both youth and first team we would rank around the 50 mark, alongside teams like Liverpool, Valencia and AC Roma

 

[Forum Phoenix]

The only problem as I see it is...

...getting pumped by the tards on a shitty cricket pitch with a poor view is hardly likley to boost memberships.



*Ducks for cover

 

[shelleybeach]

makes sense to try and build up the supporter base, not sure how feasible it is for people to travel up to the coast in numbers for evening games though, getting home would be a mission

 

[midfielder]

makes sense to try and build up the supporter base, not sure how feasible it is for people to travel up to the coast in numbers for evening games though, getting home would be a mission

Hornsby to the stadium HHHMmmmmm depending on the run 35 to 50 minutes [not that Different to lake Macquarie].... we have heaps of parking... what we don't have like say Parrmatta does lots of places to eat and go after the match... especially a match starting at 7:30 finishing at 9:30 ...

I think this is a hugely untapped area... All the private schools we have been working with, has a huge player population, its a matter of converting the player base and their parents to fans... FFA put out a huge paper on this a little way back...

This is an area aside from the Northern Beaches that is not a RL heartland if anything a RU area and Union is struggling now and a push into this area could have big rewards...

 

[dibo]

makes sense to try and build up the supporter base, not sure how feasible it is for people to travel up to the coast in numbers for evening games though, getting home would be a mission

I've done it from Stanmore for 9 years, it's not that bad. I do stay up there with family a fair bit, but I've day-tripped it as well.

 

[tsd]

the title of this thread the content of this tread

 

[dibo]

better?

 

[shelleybeach]

Northern suburbs/ upper north shore is definitely within range but I can't see 4 to 5 thousand getting away from the ground by train or car back there late as it would be too far/ busy, especially for children. An afternoon kick off is a different story though, I could see people going up for the whole day, finishing with the game.

 

[Blackadder]

This article is not so much about the Mariners push into Northern Sydney for the supporter base, more setting up more academies targeting different areas of the state/interstate two completely different things.
Credit where credit is due to Charlesworth, in looking to other areas to attract playing talent to the Mariners.

 

[marinerfix]

Mariners will play games at Brookvale Oval

 

[dibo]

Mariners will play games at Brookvale Oval

*A* game at Brookvale oval. Maximum of two in future years, it would seem.

 

[VicMariner]

“I want to get the day when you have 4k or 5k fans from northern Sydney heading up the freeway to Gosford,” he said.
“We’ve just invested $20m in our Centre of Excellence, that’s our home, our physical home and our spiritual home. But we’ve got to go fishing where the fish are.

Sounds great, NS fans swelling the numbers at our home = Gosford. Could have put it as clear as that quite some time back and saved some angst.

 

[Jaundice]

Could have put it as clear as that quite some time back and saved some angst.

He did actually.

 

[Jaundice]

makes sense to try and build up the supporter base, not sure how feasible it is for people to travel up to the coast in numbers for evening games though, getting home would be a mission

Im not exactly comparing apples with apples here but Manly rugby league games the last few years at central coast stadium day and night have pulled very impressive numbers of their fans attendance. Granted they are 'one off's' not week in week out affairs.

 

[Golly]

i dont think its the manly fans that load up central coast stadium
more likely the opposition fans

im a manly fan