AFC give Australia a "B"

[Sean]

http://www.the-afc.com/eng/articles/viewArticle.jsp_166592761.html

Australia adjudged B
KUALA LUMPUR: Australia have been given a B by the AFC Pro-League Ad-Hoc Committee after a threadbare appraisal of the eligibility of AFCs newest member to continue their participation in the AFC Champions League which will be relaunched next year along strictly professional lines.

Australia have returned a score of seven Bs and 56 As with the committee viewing the B goals achievable by the deadline of 1 October, 2008.

The B fields which need to be turned into As are:

1) The league should have a system for promotion/relegation
2) The league governing body should be a legal entity governed by its football association
3) The league governing body should have a management structure which controls competition, marketing, media and finance
4) Club representatives, ii) representatives of football association and iii) representatives from the leagues top management should be members of the highest decision making body (executive committee) of the league
5) The position of CEO should be full-time
6) The league should have an audited Profit and Loss Statement and Balance Sheet
7) The league should have an auditor

 

[midfielder]

http://www.the-afc.com/eng/articles/viewArticle.jsp_166592761.html

Australia adjudged B
KUALA LUMPUR: Australia have been given a B by the AFC Pro-League Ad-Hoc Committee after a threadbare appraisal of the eligibility of AFCs newest member to continue their participation in the AFC Champions League which will be relaunched next year along strictly professional lines.

Australia have returned a score of seven Bs and 56 As with the committee viewing the B goals achievable by the deadline of 1 October, 2008.

The B fields which need to be turned into As are:

1) The league should have a system for promotion/relegation
2) The league governing body should be a legal entity governed by its football association
3) The league governing body should have a management structure which controls competition, marketing, media and finance
4) Club representatives, ii) representatives of football association and iii) representatives from the leagues top management should be members of the highest decision making body (executive committee) of the league
5) The position of CEO should be full-time
6) The league should have an audited Profit and Loss Statement and Balance Sheet
7) The league should have an auditor

Points 5, 6 & 7 TBH just needs minor work as is more than likely in place or easy to get by Oct,

Points 2 & 3 prepahs 4 (is not BB CEO) cannot understand why they are not "A".

Point 1 ............. well in Australia at least 30 years away IMO.

However 56 "A's" sounds good plus the other it is only point 1 we cannot meet and how many nations can in Asia.

 

[kevrenor]

Points 2 & 3 prepahs 4 (is not BB CEO) cannot understand why they are not "A".......

Re:
2) The league governing body should be a legal entity governed by its football association
3) The league governing body should have a management structure which controls competition, marketing, media and finance

Despite being a recommendation of the reform of football the HAL is still not a legal entity in its own right, with dedicated management separate to the other roles of the FFA. The FFA stills runs it day to day.

 

[brett]

kev or others,

Almost all of these point come from the A-League being run by the FFA rather than its own management entity. Would that be an anti-corruption requirement?

 

[marinermick]

japan was the only country that got all A's

i'm guessing this rating system will be a pre-cursor to determine places for the revamped ACL

 

[adz]

japan was the only country that got all A's

nerds

 

[brett]

japan was the only country that got all A's

i'm guessing this rating system will be a pre-cursor to determine places for the revamped ACL

If we need to have a relegation system by October we can say goodbye to Asia.

In Lowy I have faith though.

 

[northernspirit]

surely some of these rules will be relaxed, unless the ACL becomes a comp only for Japanese teams

There is absolutely no chance of us having any sort of promotion/relegation system... we dont have the population base or money

 

[adz]

It just says "The league should have a system for promotion/relegation", not what that system has to be. That could mean anything really? The circumstances could be so ridiculous for promotion/relegation that it will most likely never happen but still comply to that rule...?

 

[fish]

be a short end to the league if promotion/relegation is forced, although with new franchises at the ready it may work once or twice. I would think though once a club is relegated the money they have will suddenly disappear leaving the viability of them going back up non existent.

 

[northernspirit]

so if perth glory come last they get relegated and promoted back as fremantle failures fc?

 

[adz]

Why would you assume coming last means relegation?

 

[fish]

exactly, financial reasons, crowd figures are considered elsewhere in the world so there would be a host of reasons

 

[dibo]

someone on the sydney forum made a fair point that you could employ a theoretical system that ties in varous standards like the requirement to have a budget and projected revenues of a certain amount, a ground of a certain standard and certain other organisational requirements to essentially make it impossible for the likes of sydney utd and co to make the grade.

if anything, that's basically how the conference - fourth division relationship used to work. clubs used to win the conference but fail to be elected to the league because their ground was too shit or whatever else i think kidderminster in 1994 were the last to suffer a knock back on this.

 

[fish]

they get round that now dibo by ground sharing like Gretna in the SPL who share a ground about 2 hours from where they are based.

 

[~Floss~]

Also note: Still only 2 ACL spots for HAL teams at this stage



AFC reveals what it thinks of Australia

Article from: http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23736408-5001023,00.html

By Tom Smithies
May 22, 2008 12:00am

THE Asian Football Confederation, in its campaign to increase the quality of the member associations, yesterday announced the 11 countries deemed professional enough to take part in a revamped Asian Champions League from next season.

But the move has delivered a snub to Australia, with a ranking of all the AFC member associations across 10 different criteria listing us only seventh.

The ranking puts us behind Iran and China.

The 11 countries who will be in the Champions League have all passed a suitability test, or are expected to do so by October.

Hopes that more than two A-League teams are allowed in were stymied by the ruling no more than a third of a league's teams could enter.

But the AFC also produced a detailed ranking of its associations on a range of criteria from marketing to stadiums and governance, totting up points for each.

Australia came in seventh in what many observers will see as a political ruling, with some Gulf countries regarding Australia as presumptuous in apparently offering its services as a fall-back venue for the 2011 Asian Cup.

Last night, Football Federation Australia refused to discuss the ranking, preferring to concentrate on Australia's confirmed entry into the ACL.

"I am pleased that we were able to demonstrate to the committee that the A-League is one of the leading professional competitions in the AFC, particularly as the competition has only been in place for three seasons," said CEO Ben Buckley, who is a member of the AFC committee involved.

"We support the reforms to the ACL format and the principles adopted by the committee as an important means of achieving even greater professionalism in the competition," he said.  UEFA has ruled that single yellow cards given at the European Championship will be cancelled after the quarter-finals to help players avoid suspension from the final.

 

[kevrenor]

Well they only have themselves to blame for not adding Gold Coast Galaxy ... then we could have had 3 spots!

 

[Jorome Alexander Bennett]

japan was the only country that got all A's

i'm guessing this rating system will be a pre-cursor to determine places for the revamped ACL

If we need to have a relegation system by October we can say goodbye to Asia.

In Lowy I have faith though.

That's right! If asia hardcore doesn't want us they can suck their own tiny penis.

But as others have said we can set heavily stringent criteria.

Japan has many many criterion. Harsh but realistic. We can be harsh but crazily unrealistic.

I would like to add that I don't like Kareem. It's purely racial thought. It has nothing to do with the drivel he constantly lets ruin our fine forum.

 

[Jesus]

We do semi have promotion/relegation. If a team doesnt meet its requirements it gets relegated and a new team promoted, eg wellington and NZ. Anything more than that it would not happen.

This could be why the push for 4 teams next year. Since this criteria will be reviewed in 2 years, and if we are then given a third could have 4 clubs.

 

[Gen (MarinerMum)]

FFA lie in bed with ALeague (Frank's in both) no separate anything which has been an ongoing problem  F  for point 2 never an A.

Relegation will come with time but not in the short term.  Small country small money limited depth at present  System for australia has to reflect the country.  we are not millions of people only 20m